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Serious Crime Bill [HL]

All I can say is that we often had cases where, by keeping our ears to the ground and using the sources available to us, we had good grounds for thinking that crimes were going to be committed. We often had to turn out substantial forces of bailiffs and so on to deal with those crimes; but they were dealt with under the ordinary procedures available to organisations at that time. The law was there in support. I really am not convinced that we need the draconian powers added by the Bill to deal with that sort of offence. I have to be convinced that that is so.