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Proceeding contribution from Lord Tyler (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Lords on Monday, 22 October 2007. It occurred during Debate on bill on Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill.


Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill

My Lords, I am grateful for the Minister’s comments; she has entirely fulfilled my expectation. She has made as mollifying and positive contribution as she has on previous parts of the Bill. However, I worry when I hear that there is a technical reason for what otherwise seems to be a simple statement of the obvious. She says that local authorities will be very much involved in the preparation of LAAs—I understand that—but we wanted to have that in the Bill. She has used all the right phrases to try to make me feel better about this and I appreciate that. The Minister has spoken of the way in which the partnerships may operate; I accept that. She accepts that sub-regions may well be the right units for looking at transport and economic planning issues; I agree with that. Indeed, I am worried when Ministers say that they absolutely agree with me—it makes me think that perhaps I have made a mistake—but on this occasion I understand precisely why she is saying that. My worry is that it is one thing to say—and this will be on the official record—that this a locally-driven agreement, but when we seek to put that in the Bill it appears not to be possible to do so. She said that it is not possible to take central government out of the picture, but that is not what we were intending to do. We simply wanted to make sure that the responsible authority as defined in the Bill should be able to seek an LAA definition. There is still a flavour of a top-down bureaucratic approach here. I take everything the Minister says and I understand it, but I am sure my noble friends and other Members of your Lordships’ House will want to make sure that when the guidance comes forward it is not just putting on paper a firm conviction that the man or woman in Whitehall knows best. However, I appreciate the care the noble Baroness has taken and the assurances she has given us and I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. Clause 108 [Duty to have regard to local improvement targets]:


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
695 c898-9 
Session
2006-07
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Crime Councillors Administration Health services Health authorities Ethics Local government Misconduct Patients Police Membership Payments Parish and town councils Local government executive Rural areas Mayors Local area agreements Local involvement networks Crime and disorder reduction partnerships
Legislation
Local Government and Public Involvement in Health Bill 2006-07
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