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Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

I am sure that the Minister must listen with great interest to what my noble and learned friends have said. I add a supplementary question that he may care to write to me on. I reflect on what my noble and learned friend Lady Butler-Sloss said about the confusion of children in such circumstances. The Michael Sieff Foundation, a child welfare charity of which I am a trustee, proposed some time ago that there should be child defendant packs for every child going into court. I would be grateful to the Minister if he could let me know what progress has been made in introducing such packs, so that every child, even if they lack legal representation, at least has this support to orientate themselves in the court—if they can read.