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Proceeding contribution from Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Lords on Tuesday, 5 February 2008. It occurred during Debate on bill and Committee of the Whole House (HL) on Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill.


Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill

The noble Lord said that the Government are providing an effective framework for dealing with this problem. Listening to the Minister, I have the impression that there is no framework at all. Who can set up these facilities? It would appear that any ex-alcoholic or even current alcoholic can do so. How is the court to know what places are available? Will the youth offending team go around trying to find a place with someone offering these services and include it in the pre-sentence report? How is it to be funded? We are not sure. It certainly is not a part of the youth offending team’s budget apparently and will come from somewhere else. The Minister is suggesting a ramshackle structure for the carrying out of these orders, not the tightly controlled suggestion made by my noble friend. Furthermore, it is a little excessive if the criticism is that my noble friend is calling for a centralised list. As I understand the amendment, he is calling for the Secretary of State to make sure that there is a list, but it will not have to be centralised in London and made available nationally. It can be devolved via the Secretary of State to the local area so that it is available to the magistrates’ court faced with a sentencing problem. I would have thought the Government would have tried to get this into a better framework than that which has been suggested so far.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
698 c1031 
Session
2007-08
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Children Criminal proceedings Alcoholic drinks Administration of justice Crimes of violence Alternatives to prison Custodial treatment Advocacy Age of criminal responsibility Inspections Drugs Rehabilitation Prisons Misuse Probation Standards Sentencing Young offenders Prisoner Ombudsman for Northern Ireland Prisons and Probation Ombudsman Youth rehabilitation orders
Legislation
Criminal Justice and Immigration Bill 2006-07 to 2007-08
Link
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