Proceeding contribution from Baroness Butler-Sloss (Crossbench) in the House of Lords on Monday, 18 February 2008. It occurred during Debate on bill and Committee of the Whole House (HL) on Children and Young Persons Bill [HL].
Children and Young Persons Bill [HL]
I too strongly support the amendment of the noble Baroness, Lady Massey. As the incoming president of the Grandparents’ Association, I support the comments made by the noble Baronesses, Lady Hollis and Lady Massey, about grandparents. I want to alert the Minister to a totally different group of people. I mentioned this factual example in Grand Committee. A middle-aged woman, who has grown-up children, is a friend of a young woman who has taken to drink and drugs. Her little girl, who has been befriended by my friend, is in grave danger because of her mother's inability to cope because of drink and drugs, so my friend is asked by social services to take the child home and look after her. She is not related to the child or to the mother, but she takes on the child. She was prepared to be a foster parent but was persuaded not to be; she was persuaded to take a residence order which the local authority and the mother supported; she was persuaded not to apply to be a special guardian; and she was told a few days before the hearing that she would not receive any maintenance for the child because she did not come within the requirements of the local authority. I know that she is receiving, and has not questioned it, a relatively small sum of money to help her with childcare so that she can keep her job. The money can be stopped at any moment because she has not been told why she is getting it or for how long and it is not the foster carer’s amount. If that can happen to her, how many other women or men in this country take on the care of a child at the request of a local authority, are pushed down the residence route only to find that although having a residence order with the support of the local authority they will not receive a penny? That is why this amendment is so very important. It seems to me that subsection (2)(c), which states, "““where P has secured a residence order … in order to avoid the child being looked after””," is exactly the position of my friend. Paragraph (e) states, "““where P is providing accommodation for the child and then secures a residence order””." My friend comes under both of those paragraphs. The current government amendments, which seem to me to be admirable as far as they go—I strongly support many of the government amendments tabled which are very thoughtful—do not cope with grandparents or with those who take over the care of a child, get a residence order and are then left without support which puts them in danger of not keeping their jobs and going on to social benefit. Is that what we want? This is a very sensible amendment and I hope that the Government will consider it seriously.
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- 699 c51-2
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- 2007-08
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- Education Children Child tax credit Child benefit Children in care Carers Families Drugs Protection Misuse Regulation Social services Training Young people Social work Social workers Care leavers Kinship care
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- Children and Young Persons Bill (HL) 2007-08
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