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Health and Social Care Bill

I support the amendments and I share with the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, the unfortunate experience of CAFCASS having a board that was originally made up of people who, as the result of a deliberate policy decision, knew nothing about the issues. I hope that that will serve as an awful warning to the Government. The other thing that we might draw from the CAFCASS experience is the necessity and value of separating governance from management. I commend that to the Minister, because if you mix the strategic focus and the development of policy with delivery, you will get into trouble. I hope that we can keep those two things separate and ensure that the requisite experience, not just of current practice in social care, but of its history, can be embedded in this new body.