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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Monday, 21 April 2008, in the House of Lords.

Health and Social Care Bill

Health and Social Care Bill. Lords Committee stage first day. Grand Committee held in the Moses Room.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
700 c197-248GC 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department of Health
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Procedure
New clauses
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
Related items
Deposited Paper DEP2008-1607
Thursday, 24 April 2008
Deposited papers
House of Lords
Deposited Paper DEP2008-1641
Wednesday, 4 June 2008
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House of Lords
Proceeding contributions
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 700 c227-8GC (Link to this contribution) Much of what I might have said has been said. I support the amendment somewhat despondently, because...
Baroness Cumberlege | 700 c241-2GC (Link to this contribution) I have short-term memory loss, but before the disruption I thought that I heard the Minister suggest...
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Baroness Cumberlege | 700 c238GC (Link to this contribution) I shall add a few words to what my noble friend has said. In his usual way, he has presented the cas...
Baroness Wilkins | 700 c239GC (Link to this contribution) I also support this amendment, which would help to ensure greater transparency in the way that the C...
Baroness Gibson of Market Rasen | 700 c197GC (Link to this contribution) If there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, the Committee will adjourn as soon as th...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c217-20GC (Link to this contribution) At Second Reading, many noble Lords raised thoughtful and heartfelt points about the need for the Bi...
Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 700 c217GC (Link to this contribution) Without repeating everything that has been said so far, I support most of the amendments. I agree co...
Baroness Greengross | 700 c216-7GC (Link to this contribution) Very briefly, I endorse what has been said about including some statement in the Bill; the wording d...
Baroness Barker | 700 c220-2GC (Link to this contribution) This has been a lengthy but immensely valuable debate. In summing up, I begin by saying that those o...
Lord Warner | 700 c214-6GC (Link to this contribution) I approach the amendments from a different perspective from that of other Members of the Committee. ...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 700 c216GC (Link to this contribution) I have two reasons for supporting the thrust of the amendments. First, if we do not have some statem...
Lord Patel of Bradford | 700 c207-9GC (Link to this contribution) I declare an interest as chairman of the Mental Health Act Commission. I was also a non-executive me...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 700 c211-2GC (Link to this contribution) I suspect that this Committee is more or less at the stage where everything has been said but not ev...
Baroness Barker | 700 c230-1GC (Link to this contribution) Were the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, here, I would congratulate him on the excellence of his argument. ...
Earl Howe | 700 c228-9GC (Link to this contribution) With the amendment, the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, has taken us to the heart of an issue which was nev...
Lord Low of Dalston | 700 c226GC (Link to this contribution) I thought that if I was to have only another half sentence, it had better be a good one. So I have p...
Lord Low of Dalston | 700 c224-6GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, support the amendment. Indeed, the noble Lord, Lord Lipsey, gave me advance warning that he ...
Viscount Simon | 700 c226GC (Link to this contribution) A Division has been called. We will resume at 5.47 pm.
Lord Low of Dalston | 700 c226GC (Link to this contribution) When I will utter one more half sentence. [The Sitting was suspended for a Division in the House fr...
Baroness Barker | 700 c242-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6: 6: Schedule 1, page 110, line 24, at end insert— ““( ) The Secretary of Sta...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c241GC (Link to this contribution) I will read the last paragraph to put it in context. I believe that the new commission will make pub...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c240-1GC (Link to this contribution) Amendment No. 5 would place a duty on the Care Quality Commission to report to Parliament each year ...
Baroness Meacher | 700 c246GC (Link to this contribution) I simply want to make a correction. Foundation trust boards are mixed; they do not report up the lin...
Baroness Pitkeathley | 700 c245GC (Link to this contribution) I support the amendments and I share with the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth, the unfortunate experien...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c248GC (Link to this contribution) This may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn.
Baroness Barker | 700 c248GC (Link to this contribution) We are clearly working from a different text because that is not what it says. The wording that I re...
Baroness Meacher | 700 c202-3GC (Link to this contribution) I add my strong support to Amendment No. 1, to which I have added my name. Clear objectives are prob...
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 700 c200-2GC (Link to this contribution) I shall speak in particular to Amendment No. 1, to which I have added my name. It is crucial that th...
Baroness Barker | 700 c197-200GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1: 1: Before Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““The regulatory objec...
Baroness Barker | 700 c222GC (Link to this contribution) On behalf of the Committee, I express our desire that the noble Lord should get off to enjoy his bus...
Lord Lipsey | 700 c222GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2: 2: Clause 1, page 1, line 9, at end insert— ““( ) The Care Quality Commissi...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c220GC (Link to this contribution) I hear that point very strongly. I am currently busy carrying out the next stage review. We need to ...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 700 c220GC (Link to this contribution) I make one point for when the Minister takes this issue away. The forceful point that he made in his...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 700 c205-7GC (Link to this contribution) I support the first amendment and will speak to Amendment No. 3, to which I have added my name. Wha...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c234GC (Link to this contribution) I could not agree more with the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, in relation to change. Medicine is a ve...
Baroness Barker | 700 c234GC (Link to this contribution) I do not wish to prolong the debate, but this is a key issue. In response, I would make two points. ...
Baroness Barker | 700 c233-4GC (Link to this contribution) In Committee it is open to any noble Lord to make a contribution at any stage—I make that point for ...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c231-3GC (Link to this contribution) I also congratulate my noble friend Lord Lipsey on his 60th birthday, despite his not being here. I ...
Viscount Simon | 700 c226GC (Link to this contribution) Would the noble Lord, Lord Low, like to have his last half sentence?
Lord Ramsbotham | 700 c223-4GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise that I was unable to take part at Second Reading but I strongly support the amendment, b...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 700 c245GC (Link to this contribution) I am anxious to get on and get home, which means that I shall be brief. The noble Baroness, Lady Bar...
Lord Colwyn | 700 c241GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the Minister would conclude his remarks.
Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 700 c239-40GC (Link to this contribution) I also support the amendment. It will be incredibly difficult to balance healthcare inspection again...
Lord Campbell-Savours | 700 c240GC (Link to this contribution) I hesitate to intervene because my expertise in this area is very limited and I feel quite humble wh...
Earl Howe | 700 c236-8GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5: 5: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause— ““The Commission’s duty...
Lord Low of Dalston | 700 c235-6GC (Link to this contribution) We are proceeding at a pace more reminiscent of debates on House of Lords reform, so the Committee w...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c246-8GC (Link to this contribution) Schedule 1 to the Bill sets out various matters relating to the constitution of the commission. It m...
Lord Lipsey | 700 c222-3GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness exceeds even her usual kindness. I thank her very much indeed. I shall be very br...
Baroness Cumberlege | 700 c212-4GC (Link to this contribution) I am spurred on by the fact that I want to get this right and the House wants to get this right—and ...
Earl Howe | 700 c204-5GC (Link to this contribution) I should like to think that this amendment or something very like it will commend itself to the Mini...
Lord Sutherland of Houndwood | 700 c209-10GC (Link to this contribution) The role of regulators in our society has grown significantly during the past two decades, which has...
Baroness Masham of Ilton | 700 c210GC (Link to this contribution) If a regulator does not do its duty and leaves out some areas that it should be looking at, what wil...
Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 700 c234-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am seeking clarification on the involvement I can have here. Forgive me; it is the first time I ha...
Baroness Barker | 700 c235GC (Link to this contribution) I do not for a moment doubt the noble Baroness’s sincerity nor her motivation in wanting the merger ...
Baroness Wall of New Barnet | 700 c228GC (Link to this contribution) I wish to speak against the amendment. So far there have been only three contributions to the debate...
Earl Howe | 700 c242GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate and for the support that they were a...
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c242GC (Link to this contribution) That is the relationship that CSCI and the Healthcare Commission have with the Department of Health....
Lord Colwyn | 700 c241GC (Link to this contribution) I hate to interrupt the Minister in full flow but there is a Division in the House. The Committee wi...
Baroness Howarth of Breckland | 700 c238-9GC (Link to this contribution) I wish to support this amendment, partly because I would hate my colleagues to think that they stood...
Lord Colwyn | 700 c248GC (Link to this contribution) The Committee stands adjourned until Tuesday, 29 April at 3.30 pm.
Baroness Barker | 700 c248GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reassurance on the matter of the non-executives. I wish to take issue w...
Lord Harris of Haringey | 700 c245-6GC (Link to this contribution) This is a strange group of amendments, in that three completely separate issues are being addressed....
Lord Darzi of Denham | 700 c248GC (Link to this contribution) I may have misinterpreted the noble Baroness’s amendment. The Secretary of State will ensure that al...
Subjects
Disclosure of information Health services Finance NHS Parliamentary scrutiny Mental health services Mental Health Act Commission Standards Regulation Social services Healthcare Commission Commission for Social Care Inspection Care Quality Commission
Legislation
Health and Social Care Bill 2007-08
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