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Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords]

The hon. Gentleman is sitting there, and I concur with his views. [Interruption.] Well, there is dissent, whether we like it or not. The hon. Member for Harrogate and Knaresborough (Mr. Willis) has said that some babies born at 23 weeks are viable. Of the 193,000 abortions that we had last year—the late stage abortions, which have to be lethally injected in vitro before they are delivered—many might have been viable, although I accept that the number itself would be small. I cannot stand here and say that it is all right to take those lives; I cannot do that. I would be much happier with 12 weeks—that is where I stand. Let women have the choice, but make it at 12 weeks.