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Pensions Bill

Yet again I am grateful to the Minister, but he is beginning to become a little repetitive. At least I am asking the same question on different points, but his answers are almost identical. I am beginning to come to the conclusion that much of this Bill is being enacted a year too early. Of course it is quite right to bring forward all the PADA stuff, but no Minister in DWP is able to give answers to many of our questions for the simple reason, which I accept, that they do not know. I have commented on why they do not know several times today. However, the noble Lord said—I think I got his words down correctly—that there is information from the scheme under existing legislation. Where in the existing legislation? I think—I certainly hope—that the Government see the policy behind the Bill as a see-saw. On one end of the see-saw you have business and its interests; on the other end, you have savers, pension savers particularly, and up until now the see-saw has balanced exactly. I remember when I was first married my wife and I went to St James’s Park and sat on a see-saw—and it did not move, much to my embarrassment and that of my new wife.