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National Assembly for Wales (Legislative Competence) (Welsh Language)

The process of winning the next general election for the Labour party. I think that even the Conservatives—I am answering the question that has been put—understand that they cannot go back to the days of Redwooditis when they trampled willy-nilly over the wishes of Wales and created circumstances in which the No vote of 1979 was converted into the Yes vote, albeit a small one, of 1997. If anybody is responsible for that victory in the 1997 referendum, in which I played a small part, it is the Conservative party, by so alienating Wales that people wanted not only to get rid of them but to establish a Welsh Assembly that could protect them in the event of a Tory Government ever coming to power. Given that the Conservatives have ambitions for Welsh representation in the future and, indeed, made advances at the last election, I think that they would not want to behave in that kind of obstructive way.