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Health Care in London

I will not give way, if the hon. Gentlemen will forgive me. Mr. Speaker will not forgive me if I do not make progress. I have one final point to make. Members from across London feel a similar way about the proposals, the assumptions that are being pursued, the lack of evidence, and the inability of NHS London to justify what it seems to expect will happen. In their amendment, Ministers are saying, "Look, don't worry; it'll be fine. Nothing will happen until the other services are already there." Ara Darzi said last year that there would sometimes need to be double-running to enable the plan to be established, but he has gone, and that plan seems to have disappeared. I must tell Labour Members that the Government's amendment is not justified: there is no plan in any of the sectors to establish services in the community and get them up and running, or for a shift in activity away from hospitals, before the point at which hospitals are shut down.