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Proceeding contribution from Michael Ellis (Conservative) in the House of Commons on Thursday, 14 July 2011. It occurred during Debate on bill and Committee of the Whole House (HC) on Sovereign Grant Bill.


Sovereign Grant Bill

I think one can tell from the number of Members in the Chamber that the matter has been debated perfectly clearly. The Crown Estate is the property of the sovereign and is in the right of the Crown. In the generations since George III's accession in 1760, successive Governments have gone to the sovereign of the day and asked, ““May we have the proceeds from the Crown Estate?”” All sovereigns since, including George IV, William VI and so on, have signed away those rights. However, from a legal perspective, the fact that the application has been made and the request granted on each occasion perhaps indicates how the law would look at the matter. It seems clear to me that the revenue is surrendered to the Exchequer and that the legal implication of that act of surrender is that the revenue belongs to the Crown. The sovereign grant is normally set as equal to 15% of the profit from the Crown Estate, as has already been alluded to. It could be argued that that is sufficient, but it is not over-generous, and no one could reasonably argue that it is disproportionate to the affairs of the Crown. If one takes the care to look at where Crown expenditure actually goes, one will see that much of it goes back to general public usage. For example, most of the communications allowance is spent on writing paper, stationary and clerical costs for responding to items of correspondence received by the royal household. With regard to entertainment costs, tens of thousands of British subjects receive hospitality at garden parties, for example, so costs are incurred in that way. The royal palaces account for a huge part of royal expenditure. If we did not have a royal family, it is reasonably safe to assume that we would retain the palaces—one would hope that they would not be knocked down to build car parks—and consequently there would be museums that would need to be maintained, although no doubt few people would visit them. The roofs would still need to be fixed and leaks repaired, so the Exchequer would not save. When one takes the care to look at the expenditure, one will see that it is extremely modest and, as has been alluded to, extremely impressive savings have been made over the past couple of years. The current system is inflexible, overly bureaucratic and has not been as transparent as it could have been. One cannot rationalise romance, and I take the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for North East Somerset (Jacob Rees-Mogg) and others that the institution of the monarchy is about more than just money, but one must bear in mind that although the monarchy is an emotionally unifying institution and, in my view, crucial to the success of this state, it is also susceptible to proper analysis of its finances, which is what the Bill will do. Consequently, I give it my full support.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
531 c575-6 
Session
2010-12
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Subjects
Disclosure of information Conditions of employment Accountability Accountancy Crown lands and estates Crown Estate Finance Expenditure Historic buildings Minimum wage National Audit Office Travel Repairs and maintenance Royal family Royal household Sovereign grant Committee of Public Accounts
Legislation
Sovereign Grant Bill 2010-12
Link
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