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Debate on Wednesday, 13 July 2005, in the House of Commons, led by Geoffrey Hoon. The answering member was Lord Grayling.

Administration Committee

Debate on a motion to amend standing orders relating to the House of Commons Select Committees. Agreed on divisions and on question.

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
436 c840-929 
Session
2005-06
Department
Leader of the House of Commons
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Proceeding contributions
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c863 (Link to this contribution) I tried to explain carefully. We are considering a two Parliament rule. Someone who is appointed to ...
Lord Grayling | 436 c863-4 (Link to this contribution) Someone who was appointed a Select Committee Chairman in the middle of the 1997–2001 Parliament coul...
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Lord Grayling | 436 c862 (Link to this contribution) I understand the hon. Lady’s point of view. She will remember, however, that when I served on her Se...
Lord Grayling | 436 c862 (Link to this contribution) I will make some progress now. One reason for the delay on Select Committees is that the Government...
Lord Grayling | 436 c863 (Link to this contribution) If we have the same number of departmental reorganisations as in the past few years, the hon. Gentle...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c862-3 (Link to this contribution) I did not manage to intervene on the previous point, which was more important. However, machinery of...
Lord Grayling | 436 c863 (Link to this contribution) I accept the Leader of the House’s point. He is right that, in the case of a couple of hung Parliame...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c863 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Gentleman and other hon. Members will bear it in mind that we are considering a...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c862 (Link to this contribution) : I understand the difficulties that arise when there are few Opposition Members, but the House of C...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c861 (Link to this contribution) : I suggest to my hon. Friend that there is an extenuating circumstance, although it is undesirable....
Lord Grayling | 436 c861-2 (Link to this contribution) I share my hon. Friend’s view that it is undesirable. However, there will also be times when it will...
Lord Grayling | 436 c860-1 (Link to this contribution) One of the reasons for the delay in appointing Select Committees is that there has been wrangling be...
Lord Grayling | 436 c860 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman urge his own Front Benchers to ensure that Select Committees are not used as...
Lord Grayling | 436 c861 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend intends to draw me into a detailed argument that is not entirely consistent with the ...
John Bercow | 436 c861 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend believes that there are extenuating circumstances in which an exception should app...
Lord Grayling | 436 c861 (Link to this contribution) My view is that in an ideal world we would not have people performing both roles. Speaking as an Opp...
John Bercow | 436 c861 (Link to this contribution) : I am sorry to press my hon. Friend on this point, but let me remind him that two wrongs do not mak...
Lord Grayling | 436 c860 (Link to this contribution) We do not need to write; we merely need to hear the Deputy Leader of the House say when he winds up ...
Edward Leigh | 436 c860 (Link to this contribution) I understand that there has been no lack of recruits early on in this Parliament. In the last Parlia...
Lord Grayling | 436 c860 (Link to this contribution) My view is that we should provide full opportunities for every Member of this House to play a full p...
Chris Bryant | 436 c860 (Link to this contribution) : The hon. Gentleman did not give a straightforward answer to his hon. Friend, who is, as he well kn...
Graham Allen | 436 c859 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman reads the amendment, which is supported by 65 hon. Members from all parties in...
Lord Grayling | 436 c858-9 (Link to this contribution) I want to establish cross-party consensus on most of those changes, although I shall make some speci...
Graham Allen | 436 c859-60 (Link to this contribution) I take the hon. Gentleman at face value, as I have worked with him in Committee and know where he st...
Lord Grayling | 436 c859 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will know from my remarks that I share his desire to examine the way in which thi...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c857-8 (Link to this contribution) I am always grateful for my hon. Friend’s concern, and I am even more grateful for his questions. I ...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c857 (Link to this contribution) Yes; I am enormously grateful. As Ministers go, I am fond of the Leader of the House. The Crossrail...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c856-7 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure about my hon. Friend’s last proposition, but the emoluments are pensionable and will c...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c857 (Link to this contribution) Will the Leader of the House tell us—
Ian Gibson | 436 c856 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend confirm that the payments to the Chairs of Select Committees also allow th...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c856 (Link to this contribution) I can happily make comments, as I have not been a member of the Chairmen’s Panel for some time. Woul...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c855-6 (Link to this contribution) On length of service, if the House accepts the proposition that the responsibility requires skill an...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c855 (Link to this contribution) : An observation, then a question: it is absurd to pay people such vastly different rates on the bas...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c855 (Link to this contribution) I sought to explain to the House the reason for that. I suggested to the Chairman of Ways and Means ...
Eric Forth | 436 c855 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with what the right hon. Gentleman has just said in that regard. As he develops his...
John Bercow | 436 c870 (Link to this contribution) Even were one to have regard to party balance in the allocation of Select Committee chairmanships, d...
David Heath | 436 c870 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the hon. Gentleman for that observation, and I agree with him entirely. At pre...
Graham Allen | 436 c870-1 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman accept that however a Select Committee is composed—I have some sympathy with...
David Heath | 436 c871 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Of course a Committee should have complete freedom in terms ...
David Heath | 436 c871 (Link to this contribution) I give way, for the last time, to the hon. Member for Nottingham, North.
Graham Allen | 436 c871 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way again. He is leading toward the logical conclusio...
Speaker | 436 c871 (Link to this contribution) Order. I point out to the House that this subject has been aired very considerably and, in the case ...
Speaker | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Member for Thurrock (Andrew Mackinlay) is an experienced Member of the House. He kno...
Lord Grayling | 436 c867-8 (Link to this contribution) I think that we should cross that bridge when the Government make such a proposal. I shall not be di...
David Heath | 436 c869 (Link to this contribution) Before I start my comments on the motions, may I welcome the Leader of the House’s announcement abou...
Ian Gibson | 436 c869 (Link to this contribution) : In relation to the time delay in getting these Committees going, does the hon. Gentleman agree tha...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c868 (Link to this contribution) When I entered the House, there was a long and honourable tradition among some well-known Chairmen o...
Lord Grayling | 436 c868 (Link to this contribution) I well understand the fatigue of those Chairmen that the hon. Lady describes. Having sat through Sta...
David Heath | 436 c869-70 (Link to this contribution) I hear what the right hon. Gentleman says. Certainly, I was one of those who urged, when we were con...
David Heath | 436 c869 (Link to this contribution) I have the greatest esteem for the hon. Gentleman, who was my Chairman when I served on the Science ...
Eric Forth | 436 c869 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman agree that, first, Select Committees should have equal numbers of Government...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c865-6 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the House suggested that the right hon. Member for Swansea, West (Mr. Williams) was on...
Lord Grayling | 436 c866-7 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his comments. His contribution speaks for itself. There would be...
Lord Grayling | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) I am not aware of any such proposal—
Lord Grayling | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) So I am not going to be drawn into speculating—
Eric Forth | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) There is another way of looking at that, which would involve calling it a probationary period. I ask...
Lord Grayling | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) Serving on the Chairmen’s Panel is hard work, and sitting in the Chair of a long Standing Committee ...
Lord Grayling | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) I hate to disappoint the hon. Gentleman, but I cannot answer the Leader of the House’s questions for...
Lord Grayling | 436 c865 (Link to this contribution) I think that that has clarified matters. Let me move on to the Modernisation Committee’s new remit....
Lord Grayling | 436 c864 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that clarification. It remains my view that when an eight year period comes to an ...
Edward Leigh | 436 c864 (Link to this contribution) It is important to get that clear. The Leader of the House has made it clear—he can intervene again ...
Lord Grayling | 436 c864 (Link to this contribution) Can my hon. Friend the Member for Macclesfield (Sir Nicholas Winterton) therefore serve as Chairman ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c864 (Link to this contribution) No. I shall try one last time. I suspect that the Procedure Committee did not meet until October 199...
Michael Jack | 436 c843 (Link to this contribution) The motion indicates that the Administration Committee will make recommendations to the House of C...
John Bercow | 436 c843 (Link to this contribution) If the right hon. Gentleman wants to assert to the House that his party has a relatively transparent...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c843 (Link to this contribution) This sounds like one of those childhood games of ““you show me yours first””. It is not necessarily ...
Alan Williams | 436 c843 (Link to this contribution) Does the Leader of the House agree that if the whole House were involved in the selection of Committ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c843 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes an extremely good point and allows me to return to the fascinating discus...
Lord McLoughlin | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) Although I do not want to pry too much into the activities of the PLP, we have just been told that i...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman makes an excellent point. It is important, however, that I do not go beyond...
Graham Allen | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) The serious point that I was trying to put to my right hon. Friend was that if the House agrees to s...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Modernisation Committee, once established, will want to consider a range of issue...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman will allow me to get to that part of my observations, all will become clear—I ...
Bob Spink | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) While the Leader of the House is indulging in tidying up some of these matters, will he explain exac...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) I have made it quite clear that, as Leader of the House, I am not responsible for the internal worki...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c841-2 (Link to this contribution) I am always grateful for all the help that I can get, particularly from such a distinguished source,...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c842 (Link to this contribution) My friend will know that the parliamentary committee of the parliamentary Labour party decided that ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c841 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with my hon. Friend, not least because the great strength of our Select Committee system ...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c841 (Link to this contribution) May I perhaps come partly to the aid of the Leader of the House? He will be aware that the Modernisa...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c840-1 (Link to this contribution) We have before us in this afternoon’s first debate 37 motions that relate to the reappointment of th...
Graham Allen | 436 c841 (Link to this contribution) Before the Leader of the House gets too far into the detail of all these motions, will he address an...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c840 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That Standing Orders Nos. 139 (Select Committee on Broadcasting) and 142 (Domestic Co...
Speaker | 436 c840 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to consider motions 5 to 40.
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c846 (Link to this contribution) It may sound old-fashioned, but I do not think that the proposal is fair. I would like the Leader of...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c846 (Link to this contribution) I do not anticipate that I will betray any confidences if I indicate to my hon. Friend that I have h...
Edward Leigh | 436 c846 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman think that this very desirable rule should be applied to other office ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c846 (Link to this contribution) Term limits are common practice in many parts of the United States. There is a term limit for the Pr...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c846 (Link to this contribution) And save for our having had seven Ministers for Europe in seven years.
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c846-7 (Link to this contribution) It is probably wise to move on to the next fascinating motion. Motion 7 relates to the size of some ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c845 (Link to this contribution) I knew that I had made a mistake earlier on, but I am grateful to my hon. Friend for continuing the ...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c845 (Link to this contribution) : What happens if the terms of reference or remit of a Select Committee are changed to reflect the d...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c846 (Link to this contribution) It is clear that it is a new Committee, and the term would then begin with the commencement of that ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c844 (Link to this contribution) I was at pains to try to ensure that the terms of reference of the new unified Committee reflected t...
Adam Afriyie | 436 c844 (Link to this contribution) As a relatively new Member, I am aware that modernisation needs to take place on many Committees. Ho...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c844 (Link to this contribution) We will need to consider that important point after the Administration Committee has been establishe...
Eric Forth | 436 c844 (Link to this contribution) Exactly in that context, I note that paragraph (6) of motion 4 says that the Administration Committe...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c845 (Link to this contribution) I sense that I am risking reopening this debate.
Graham Allen | 436 c845 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that the Leader of the House has moved the debate on. As he mentioned my name, I felt...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c844-5 (Link to this contribution) I intend to deal with that point when I reach the part of my speech—if we ever get there—on proposal...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c843 (Link to this contribution) There will not be such a requirement, but I am sure that the right hon. Gentleman’s suggestion could...
Lord McLoughlin | 436 c843-4 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the formation of the Administration Committee because far too often in the last Parliament...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c849 (Link to this contribution) The Osmotherly rules, I am informed, will be issued tomorrow. Perhaps we can have a debate on that r...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c849 (Link to this contribution) The Government have pledged to revisit the Osmotherly rules. Which of the rules have been changed?
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c849 (Link to this contribution) I had hoped that the practice had already improved. I was not aware of any serious complaints from C...
Michael Jack | 436 c849 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the House will be aware of exchanges in the previous Parliament involving the Liaison ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c849 (Link to this contribution) I am dealing today only with the current nominations. Those questions will logically follow later in...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c850-1 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Member for Bromley and Chislehurst has made a distinctive contribution to the work of...
Graham Allen | 436 c850 (Link to this contribution) I commend my right hon. Friend for congratulating the Modernisation Committee on its very good altho...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c850 (Link to this contribution) Indeed it might be better to see them before we reach clear conclusions on their content. I was ref...
Lord McLoughlin | 436 c850 (Link to this contribution) It would be nice to see the rules.
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c850 (Link to this contribution) As the question of Osmotherly rules has come up, can we place in Hansard the advice that the Clerk o...
Lord McLoughlin | 436 c848 (Link to this contribution) Can the Leader of the House tell us what the Modernisation Committee can do that the Procedure Commi...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c847 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to have this opportunity to praise the work of the Modernisation Committee to the rig...
Eric Forth | 436 c848 (Link to this contribution) If it is true, as the Leader of the House has disgracefully claimed, that the Modernisation Committe...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c848 (Link to this contribution) I think that the short answer is probably ““deliver””, but that may be a little frank for someone wh...
Chris Bryant | 436 c849 (Link to this contribution) Notwithstanding the importance of the Leader of the House chairing the Modernisation Committee, does...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c848-9 (Link to this contribution) I have always been thoroughly impressed by the hon. Gentleman’s work, both generally in the range of...
Lord Young of Cookham | 436 c848 (Link to this contribution) On the question of delivery, did not the right hon. Gentleman’s predecessor as Leader of the House a...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c848 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the Leader of House will accept that his chairing of the Modernisation Committee give...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c848 (Link to this contribution) There was a debate in the House and a vote, and in its wisdom the House chose to reject the proposal...
Lord Grayling | 436 c852 (Link to this contribution) I am curious about the contradictions in the right hon. Gentleman’s remarks. A few minutes ago, he t...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c852 (Link to this contribution) There is, however, a question, as I have already suggested, about the extent to which we should cont...
Alan Williams | 436 c853 (Link to this contribution) : The motion makes a novel proposition that has not been considered by the House before. May I sugge...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c853 (Link to this contribution) As ever, the hon. Gentleman has made his case with great clarity. He makes a perfectly proper point ...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c853 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the House has suggested that I may have a limited vested interest in the amendment, bu...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c854-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not intend to debate with my hon. Friend the principle, which has previously been established o...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c854 (Link to this contribution) : The Minister knows that I was implacably opposed and remain opposed to the paying of Chairmen of S...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c853-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Father of the House for his suggestion. If the proposal is defeated today, I am...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c851 (Link to this contribution) It is important that the Liaison Committee reflects the Committees of the House. It is there for a p...
Pete Wishart | 436 c851 (Link to this contribution) It is a great innovation to put the Father of the House on the Liaison Committee. Does the Leader of...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c851 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman has assisted the minority parties and me with his suggestion but, following...
Eric Forth | 436 c851 (Link to this contribution) I would like to try to help the Leader of the House by urging him to support the amendment that I ta...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c851-2 (Link to this contribution) I remain open to sensible suggestions. I was simply pointing out that the minority parties may not a...
Lord McLoughlin | 436 c851 (Link to this contribution) The Leader of the House must accept that the stature of the Liaison Committee has changed dramatical...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c852 (Link to this contribution) I am a deeply cautious lawyer and I would prefer to wait and see what sensible proposal the hon. Gen...
Pete Wishart | 436 c852 (Link to this contribution) I think that in principle the right hon. Gentleman does not object to minority parties serving on th...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c852 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Member for Perth and North Perthshire (Pete Wishart) is still thinking about it, bu...
Viscount Hailsham | 436 c899 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, but there is another point to be made. The Whips Office controls the parlia...
John Bercow | 436 c899 (Link to this contribution) Yes, they are paid as well, as the hon. Gentleman helpfully observes from a sedentary position. In r...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c900 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman picked on the wrong author. Is there not a stronger resemblance to what h...
John Bercow | 436 c899-900 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. and learned Friend is absolutely right. I do not know whether the sensation has afflic...
Eric Forth | 436 c898-9 (Link to this contribution) If the system is as invidious and insidious as my hon. Friend suggests, how is it that he has been r...
John Bercow | 436 c900-1 (Link to this contribution) I must say that the literary reference that the hon. Lady has invoked is probably better than mine. ...
Richard Shepherd | 436 c901 (Link to this contribution) : I hope that my hon. Friend will take my comment in the spirit in which it is intended, but his ele...
Richard Shepherd | 436 c896 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Stoke-on-Trent, Central (Mark Fisher) told the truth: surely the answer to the m...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c896 (Link to this contribution) My dear, well educated and hon. Friend does occasionally display a degree of naiveté that I would ha...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c894 (Link to this contribution) I can see the Whip, my right hon. Friend the Member for Coventry, North-East (Mr. Ainsworth) and I r...
Mark Fisher | 436 c907 (Link to this contribution) Of course, Madam Deputy Speaker. I shall just correct myself. I meant to say that Government have th...
Richard Shepherd | 436 c908-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend the Member for Forest of Dean (Mr. Harper). I will be extremely brie...
Nigel Griffiths | 436 c909-10 (Link to this contribution) It is a particular pleasure to respond to the debate, because it has been both well-informed and bro...
Nigel Griffiths | 436 c911 (Link to this contribution) The House is rather good at learning from experience. I have set out how the motion would have worke...
Speaker | 436 c915 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, I will now put motions 12 to 31 together.
John Bercow | 436 c904 (Link to this contribution) I used that line with the deputy Chief Whip to try to persuade him that it was probably in his inter...
John Bercow | 436 c902-4 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right. He may think, and others may agree, that I am being slightly uncharitab...
Viscount Hailsham | 436 c907 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with the hon. Gentleman on one matter. He says that the Government have an absolute right...
Viscount Hailsham | 436 c905 (Link to this contribution) In a sense, perhaps the hon. Gentleman will agree that what the debate illustrates is that the polit...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c888 (Link to this contribution) I had not intended to speak, but it has been such an interesting and engrossing debate that I though...
Speaker | 436 c885 (Link to this contribution) Order. I should point out to the right hon. Gentleman that he can only speak to an amendment that ha...
Lord Young of Cookham | 436 c893 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I think that he will recognise that the power to change matt...
Lord Young of Cookham | 436 c892 (Link to this contribution) I agree, and the case is even stronger than that. The Leader of the House, as a member of the Cabine...
John Bercow | 436 c890 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for giving way so near to the conclusion of his speech. He inqui...
Eric Forth | 436 c885 (Link to this contribution) I wish to move amendment (b) to motion 34 and amendment (b) to motion 35.
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c885 (Link to this contribution) First, I do not accept the hon. Gentleman’s premise that any comparison can be made between business...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c884-5 (Link to this contribution) I respect the hon. Gentleman for the sincerity of his argument, but could he indicate how many busin...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c884 (Link to this contribution) I think that the holy spirit will not go that far. That is testing faith to the limits. The Prime Mi...
Eric Forth | 436 c882 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman should not let his charming paranoia completely run away with him. There is a muc...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c880-2 (Link to this contribution) Before I aggravate anybody, I commend motion 15 to the House. I have a selfish interest as I want to...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c879-80 (Link to this contribution) I accept that, and a member of the Liaison Committee has no need to take part in the questioning of ...
David Heath | 436 c873-5 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I shall move on to motion 34, which deals with the Liaison Commi...
Speaker | 436 c871 (Link to this contribution) Precisely. I call Mr. David Heath.
John Bercow | 436 c899 (Link to this contribution) I make it absolutely clear to my right hon. Friend that I strongly object to the way in which it is ...
John Bercow | 436 c901-2 (Link to this contribution) Well, my answer is that I was happy to go along with the credible proposal made by the hon. Member f...
Mark Fisher | 436 c896 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way in the dying moments of her speech. In her interestin...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c894-6 (Link to this contribution) I have no difficulty in giving my hon. Friend a firm commitment that I have no intention of leaving ...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c897 (Link to this contribution) I assure the House that my hon. Friend and I are indeed very revolting. The reality is that it was t...
John Bercow | 436 c897-8 (Link to this contribution) As far as I am concerned, this is not a personal matter. I have nothing against the Government Whips...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c896 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. If in any way I implied, even as a joke, that I thought that that was not the case, I wa...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c896-7 (Link to this contribution) In view of the intervention of our hon. Friend the Member for Stoke-on-Trent, Central (Mark Fisher),...
Lord Harper | 436 c908 (Link to this contribution) I want to make one point, which, given the time that we have left, I hesitate to dwell on. I would b...
Lord Harper | 436 c910-1 (Link to this contribution) The Minister’s example illustrates why some Members are confused. It would be straightforward to set...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c911 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend’s 1974 scenario does not stack up. After a short Parliament, the new Parliament could...
Nigel Griffiths | 436 c911 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that I have not convinced my hon. Friend. I did not think I was struggling to use the exa...
Mark Fisher | 436 c904 (Link to this contribution) It is pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Buckingham (John Bercow), who is a truly independent-mi...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c902 (Link to this contribution) I say in all seriousness to the hon. Gentleman that in the past two weeks, we have seen a seismic sh...
Mark Fisher | 436 c905-7 (Link to this contribution) I think that the right hon. and learned Gentleman knows that I wholly agree with him on that. That w...
Speaker | 436 c907 (Link to this contribution) Order. I wonder whether we could confine our remarks to Select Committees and the matters on the Ord...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c889 (Link to this contribution) I did not make my point as clear as I should have done. When the Public Administration Committee sum...
Nigel Griffiths | 436 c885 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is learning from experience.
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c888-9 (Link to this contribution) : I am in very strong agreement with my hon. Friend, but I would be happy if the changes to the Osmo...
Eric Forth | 436 c885 (Link to this contribution) I apologise if I said (b) instead of (a), Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Mark Fisher | 436 c892-3 (Link to this contribution) Although the Government are in some ways culpable, does the right hon. Gentleman recognise that the ...
Mark Fisher | 436 c892 (Link to this contribution) Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that it is an extraordinary anomaly that what is supposed to be ...
Lord Young of Cookham | 436 c891-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Pendle (Mr. Prentice). Perhaps I could pick up a poin...
John Bercow | 436 c890 (Link to this contribution) : Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Gordon Prentice | 436 c890 (Link to this contribution) I was about to finish, but I will.
Gordon Prentice | 436 c889-90 (Link to this contribution) I shall come on to that. If the parliamentary committee suggested any changes, we were told, ““You h...
David Heath | 436 c879 (Link to this contribution) I do not doubt any of the points that the hon. Gentleman has made. Indeed, it is essential, especial...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c878-9 (Link to this contribution) I am not sure that that is a helpful intervention in terms of the confusion that I am expressing. Th...
Alan Williams | 436 c876-7 (Link to this contribution) I had not intended to make a speech today, just to make the odd intervention, but I want to follow o...
Nicholas Winterton | 436 c877-8 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely honoured to follow the right hon. Member for Swansea, West (Mr. Williams) and I hope ...
David Heath | 436 c872-3 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I do not intend to prolong the dialogue with the hon. Member for ...
Christopher Fraser | 436 c873 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman explain how such a Committee would interact with the all-party Olympics grou...
Graham Allen | 436 c871 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Some 65 Members of this House, plus many others, put their ...
Mark Fisher | 436 c907 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Gentleman is quite right. What I intended to say is that the Government—
Gordon Prentice | 436 c890 (Link to this contribution) I have not offered to join the Chairmen’s Panel, and I have never received an invitation, either.
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c856 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for her practical observations and her experience of dealing with th...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c864 (Link to this contribution) : Some of us who are on low pay are a bit bewildered. Perhaps the Front-Bench Members can explain it...
Speaker | 436 c873 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is perfectly in order for the hon. Gentleman to refer to a Committee that might have been ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c848 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the right hon. Gentleman has put that spin on my remarks. There was no intention on ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c852-3 (Link to this contribution) I do not think that there is any contradiction in my remarks, and I do not think that the hon. Gentl...
Gwyneth Dunwoody | 436 c893-4 (Link to this contribution) I must apologise to you, Madam Deputy Speaker, and to the House, because my presence has been requir...
Mark Fisher | 436 c904-5 (Link to this contribution) I would be amazed if that were not the case. As the hon. Gentleman said there is an element of déjà...
Speaker | 436 c885 (Link to this contribution) Order. Did I mishear the right hon. Gentleman? Does he wish to speak to amendment (a) to motion 34 a...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) May I invite the hon. Gentleman to answer a question that I put to the Leader of the House earlier, ...
Geoffrey Hoon | 436 c864 (Link to this contribution) Again, the primary purpose of the rule is to limit the duration of office to two Parliaments. I have...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c882-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the right hon. Gentleman for clarifying the history of the matter. In any event, I ...
Gordon Prentice | 436 c878 (Link to this contribution) The important point is that if the remit of a Select Committee is changed in any way, it becomes for...
Eric Forth | 436 c885-8 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I am always prepared to be taught by Members with superior experience. I shall try to rise to ...
Andrew Mackinlay | 436 c867 (Link to this contribution) I wish the hon. Gentleman a long time in the House. Will he give a personal undertaking that if and ...
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