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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Tuesday, 7 February 2006, in the House of Lords.

Council Tax (New Valuation Lists for England) Bill

Council Tax (New Valuation Lists for England) Bill. Lords Committee stage. Grand Committee off the floor of the House (Moses room). Clauses 1 and 2 agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
678 c295-320GC 
Session
2005-06
Department
Office of the Deputy Prime Minister
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords Grand Committee
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Proceeding contributions
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 678 c316GC (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Lord, Lord Hanningfield, on this amendment. It is quite extraordinary that this ...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c296-8GC (Link to this contribution) I apologise for not having been here for Second Reading and thank Members of the Committee for their...
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Baroness Hanham | 678 c307-8GC (Link to this contribution) I, too, think that it was worth having the debate. The tenor of the amendment is clear: to ensure th...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 678 c315GC (Link to this contribution) I hope that the noble Baroness and the noble Lord discussed this matter beforehand so that she could...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c315GC (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord give way? It may stand alone but my noble friend Lord Hanningfield explained ver...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c313GC (Link to this contribution) The Bill is rather teasing us; on the basis that the legislation will go through, we are saying that...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c316-7GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness concluded on an interesting point—the one which divides us. The amendment is unne...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c318GC (Link to this contribution) We are talking about the future of local government in a way. This is not just a taxation matter. I ...
Lord Smith of Leigh | 678 c302GC (Link to this contribution) Could my noble friend confirm that when we get beyond the Lyons report and the need radically to rev...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c300GC (Link to this contribution) Why was that not done before? In the last piece of legislation, a date was named, which was obviousl...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c300GC (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister confirm what David Miliband said in the other place: that, with the postponement of...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c298-9GC (Link to this contribution) Can I intervene briefly? I say straightaway that the Conservative Party is not against the council t...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c296GC (Link to this contribution) Further to the noble Baroness’s question, will any work be done on the revaluation while no valuatio...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 678 c308-9GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4:"Page 1, line 8, at end insert—" ““(1B)   The Secretary of State shall decid...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 678 c309-11GC (Link to this contribution) This amendment has been debated twice before in another place so it has the benefit of being consist...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c307GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for her reply. I accept that the amendment may not have been absolutely perfect...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c305-7GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her clear explanation, which is the one that she thought she...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c302-3GC (Link to this contribution) What has just been said is part of the proposal that I put forward. If you look at what other countr...
Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale | 678 c295GC (Link to this contribution) I begin with the following statement: if there is a Division in the Chamber while we are sitting, th...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c295-6GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 1, line 5, leave out subsection (2)." The noble Lord said: Subsection (...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c319-20GC (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. We have said that we will bring together our discussions on a wide-ranging set of issues...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 678 c314-5GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord should not be quite so hasty. I was going to say a word or two about that. We are com...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c318GC (Link to this contribution) Large numbers of people are engaged in a debate throughout local government at the moment, not least...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c316GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 6:"Page 1, line 17, at end insert—" ““(   )   In subsection (11), for ““the Ho...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 678 c318GC (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether I am having a dense moment, but I am finding this difficult to understand. It ...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c317-8GC (Link to this contribution) Could the Minister answer a hypothetical question? The reason for postponing the revaluation is the ...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c299-300GC (Link to this contribution) I am very pleased to have that contribution from the noble Lord as it will help me when we come to t...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c304-5GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Baroness for her clear explanation, which is the one that we thought she ...
Baroness Ramsay of Cartvale | 678 c296GC (Link to this contribution) If Amendment No. 3 is agreed to, I cannot call Amendment No. 4.
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c320GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that reply. As we have already said, we feel strongly about this part of th...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c312GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 5:"Page 1, line 12, leave out subsection (4)." The noble Lord said: This amendm...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 678 c311-2GC (Link to this contribution) I would like to thank the noble Lord for that reply, but I do not feel that I can. He has concentrat...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c314GC (Link to this contribution) I particularly raised the question of Wales, but the noble Lord has not talked about that at all. I ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 678 c313-4GC (Link to this contribution) The principles behind our approach may well be the same, but I do not think we should see Wales as a...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 678 c313GC (Link to this contribution) The amendment leaves me more confused about the Opposition’s real intentions with regard to revaluat...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c318GC (Link to this contribution) But consultation is taking place and what I call the Miliband review on the future of local governme...
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c315-6GC (Link to this contribution) I do not know whether I thank the Minister for his answer as I do not think he responded to my point...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c318GC (Link to this contribution) I will try to reassure noble Lords opposite. The general point was made by the noble Baroness, Lady ...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c300-2GC (Link to this contribution) It is important that I make myself clear. Because of the timetable of revaluation—the way in which d...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c300GC (Link to this contribution) We think it very unlikely that there will be a revaluation in the lifetime of this Parliament. A sp...
Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 678 c296GC (Link to this contribution) Much of what I wish to say on my amendment could also be said under this one, but I shall not say it...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c307GC (Link to this contribution) It was an extremely useful exercise for us to work through both the original amendment and this one,...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c303-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. *3A:"Page 1, line 6, leave out from ““compiled”” to end of line 8 and insert ““o...
Baroness Andrews | 678 c302GC (Link to this contribution) I recognise the experience that my noble friend brings to this debate and the reality of what he has...
Baroness Hanham | 678 c318GC (Link to this contribution) In addition to the Sir Michael Lyons review.
Lord Hanningfield | 678 c319GC (Link to this contribution) I had a letter from David Miliband yesterday asking me to be part of the discussions about the futur...
Subjects
Council tax Housing Local government finance Property Prices Valuation Tax rates and bands Timetables Valuation Office Agency
Legislation
Council Tax (New Valuation Lists for England) Bill 2005-06
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