Debate on bill on Wednesday, 15 February 2006, in the House of Lords.
NHS Redress Bill [HL]
NHS Redress Bill [HL]. Lords Report stage. Concluded. Bill printed as amended (HL Bill 77).
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- 678 c1153-213
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- 2005-06
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NHS Redress Bill (HL). As amended in Grand Committee (HL)
Wednesday, 23 November 2005
Bills
House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Warner | 678 c1166-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am sorry. I got tangled up in my amendment numbers. I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lor...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1166 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am not sure whether the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, wishes to speak. I expect that, wit...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1164 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. *12:"Page 2, line 26, at end insert ““and a report on action being taken to redu...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1164 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 11:"Page 2, line 25, leave out ““and””" On Question, amendment agreed to.
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Lord Warner | 678 c1164 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am happy to give that assurance. It is certainly not our intention to do that; it would ...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1163-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may start by welcoming Amendment No. 13 in response to a concern raised by me an...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1172-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I listened carefully to the noble Baroness’s advocacy of the three amendments. I am afraid...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1170-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister is very kind and I thank him for his reply. I should make clear that I have n...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1169-70 (Link to this contribution) : My Lords, it is intended that the redress scheme will provide for financial compensation to be off...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1171-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 18:"Page 3, line 17, at end insert—" ““( ) The only relevant circumstance ...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1171 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 16:"Page 2, line 40, leave out from beginning to end of line 3 on page 3 and ins...
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Lord Boston of Faversham | 678 c1167 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in calling Amendment No. 15, and in view of the groupings, I point out to your Lordships a...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1175-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 22:"Page 3, line 33, at end insert ““(such investigation to be confined to inves...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1183 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to do this, but I think that I know where this is going. I would like to be sur...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1182-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply. Perhaps I may preface my remarks by saying th...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1182 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have listened with great care to the Minister but, as he may have anticipated, he has no...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1178-82 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in this set of amendments we come to what is probably the major remaining area of contenti...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1192-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must first apologise for any confusion that has been caused by a minor drafting error in...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1188 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 25:"Page 3, line 40, at end insert ““; and" ( ) the disclosure of all info...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1190-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 26A:"Page 3, line 40, at end insert—" ““(2A) A scheme may make provision for...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1155-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, whether or not the amendment is strictly necessary to the Bill, it seems to me to have its...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1156-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the strength of feeling and the rationale, although I do not necessarily acce...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1162-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 10:"Page 2, line 23, at end insert ““redress ordinarily to comprise-””" The nob...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1162 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 8 and 9:"Page 2, line 10, leave out subsection (7).""Page 2, line 14, at end i...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1161-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 4:"Page 2, line 3, at end insert—" ““(4A) For the purposes of subsection (2)...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1160-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I take that as an invitation to have another go. As I said in my letter and in my opening ...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1153-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 1:"Before Clause 1, insert the following new clause—" ““METHODS OF REDRESS ...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1213 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 51:"Page 10, leave out lines 9 and 10." On Question, amendment agreed to.
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Earl Howe | 678 c1213 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful for that helpful reply. My mind is now at rest but perhaps I could make doub...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1212-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl for his understanding and for his wish for further clarifi...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1210-12 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 50: Leave out Clause 17. The noble Earl said: My Lords, in Grand Committee we ...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1207-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness’s amendment has its heart in the right place, because she has identifie...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1200 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 32:"Page 4, line 15, at end insert—" ““(1A) A scheme must make such provisio...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1201 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 35 is intended to enable a list of approved providers of legal advice to be ...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1200-1 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 35:"Page 4, line 18, leave out ““a”” and insert ““one or more than one””" The n...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1198 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that was a helpful reply. I had not realised the unintended consequence of the amendment, ...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1199-200 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that it was Members on these Benches who made the point about lack of clarity in...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1204 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 42:"After Clause 11, insert the following new clause—" ““PATIENT REDRESS INVES...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1204 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that response, which helped to clarify that the important functio...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1202-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 40 seeks to extend the functions of the scheme authority, enabling the schem...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1167 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 13 and 14:"Page 2, line 26, at end insert ““and" ( ) the giving of an ap...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1167 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. I am, of course, a little disappointed with his reacti...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1166 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise. I wondered whether the Minister might deal with Amendment No. 38, which is ab...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1174 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for the clarity he has added, which is now on the record. I did not f...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1174 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 19:"Page 3, line 17, at end insert—" ““( ) There shall be a duty upon sche...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1175 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness will not be surprised to discover that we do not support this amendment...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1167-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 15:"Page 2, line 40, leave out paragraphs (c) and (d)." The noble Earl said: My...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1185-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 24:"Page 3, line 40, at end insert—" ““( ) requiring proceedings under the...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1183 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I had hoped the Minister would not say that, because I do not accept it. For the life of m...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1185 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 23:"Page 3, line 34, at end insert—" ““( ) about the assessment of liabili...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1178 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak principally to Amendment No. 42 in this group. As I said earlier, in the lon...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1175 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response. However, having listened carefully to him, his response stil...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1195 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her very full and considered answer. I listened to what she said ...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1186-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Amendment No. 24 provides that the scheme may make provision to require proceedings,"““to ...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1188-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a serious anomaly thrown up by the Government’s redress scheme is the confusion that it ca...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1191-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am in tune with the spirit of Amendments Nos. 26A and 33. The former raises the prospect...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1157-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I welcome the supportive comments of the noble Earl, Lord Howe. He rightly characterised o...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1158-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 2:"Page 1, line 9, after ““of”” insert ““qualifying””" The noble Lord said: My ...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1161 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 1, line 9, leave out ““in a hospital (in England or elsewhere)””" On Qu...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1160 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall speak to Amendments Nos. 5 to 7. In Grand Committee, my noble friend Lady Neuberge...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1208-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, clearly I would not entirely accept that this is a repackaging. I think that it is a very ...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1207 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 45 to 48:"Page 7, line 12, leave out ““established by or under any enactment””...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1206-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will write in detail, with pleasure. On Question, amendment agreed to.
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1207 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 49:"After Clause 14, insert the following new clause—" ““APPEALS The Secret...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1200 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 34:"Page 4, line 16, after ““(1)(a)”” insert ““or (1A)””" On Question, amendmen...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1198 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I understand Amendment No. 27, it would place explicitly in the Bill the need for settl...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1197-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 27:"Page 3, line 43, at end insert—" ““( ) A scheme must provide that wher...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1198-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28:"Page 4, line 5, leave out subsection (1) and insert—" ““(1) A scheme mus...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1200 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 29 to 31:"Page 4, line 11, at beginning insert ““Subject to subsection (1A),””...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1206 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Royall of Blaisdon, for her response on Amendments Nos. 4...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1205-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 44:"Page 7, line 12, after ““other”” insert ““statutory””" The noble Baroness s...
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Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 678 c1204-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 43: Leave out Clause 12. The noble Baroness said: My Lords, Clause 12(1) disap...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1201-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 39:"Page 5, line 32, at end insert ““save for the investigation of the facts of ...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1201 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 36:"Page 5, line 21, at end insert—" ““( ) require a member of the scheme ...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1202 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 40:"Page 5, line 40, after ““monitoring”” insert ““and annual review””" The nob...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1210 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her lengthy reply to a small amendment. I listened to all her arg...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1164-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in Committee, as the noble Earl, Lord Howe, has said, a number of noble Lords raised conce...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1187-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. The amendment does not bear on one party rather than ...
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Baroness Barker | 678 c1190 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply. If the existing law on disclosure worked, then both th...
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Lord Warner | 678 c1189-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not for one moment believe that the Government’s position is incoherent. It is a fact...
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Earl Howe | 678 c1201 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I accept that the amendment is, strictly speaking, unnecessary. It was designed as a devic...
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- Complaints Disclosure of information Dental services Compensation Appeals Civil proceedings Hospitals Liability Legal costs Legal opinion NHS Patients Ophthalmic services Negligence Training Health Service Commissioner NHS Litigation Authority
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