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Debate on bill and Committee proceeding on Thursday, 18 January 2007, in the House of Lords.

Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
688 c281-308GC 
Session
2006-07
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Home Office
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Committee stage
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House of Lords Grand Committee
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c288GC (Link to this contribution) I was anticipating that the noble Baroness would argue that it would be more appropriate for the cou...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c285-6GC (Link to this contribution) I found the arguments of the noble Baroness, Lady Turner of Camden, persuasive, as, indeed were the ...
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Lord Razzall | 688 c289GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 84: 84: Clause 9 , page 8, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) A court before which ...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c286-7GC (Link to this contribution) All the amendments in this group are concerned with ensuring that organisations convicted of the new...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c294GC (Link to this contribution) My understanding is that that is a matter for administrative arrangements within the CPS. The papers...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c294GC (Link to this contribution) May I press the Minister at little further? If there was a possibility of a prosecution against the ...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c294GC (Link to this contribution) There is a problem here—is there not?—that many Members of the Committee will be troubled by. Despit...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c290GC (Link to this contribution) These are very sensible amendments. If we are serious about changing behaviour, the potential sancti...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 688 c300GC (Link to this contribution) I am disappointed by the Minister’s reply, but I shall consider carefully what he said. I shall almo...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c294-5GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I can take the Minister to a slightly different tack. I would have great confidence in the D...
Lord Razzall | 688 c295-6GC (Link to this contribution) Of course, like other noble Lords, I was not in any way impugning the independence or integrity of t...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c298-9GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd, for moving the amendments in the very fair ...
Lord Lee of Trafford | 688 c301GC (Link to this contribution) I support the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, and Amendment No. 95. Amendments Nos. 96 and 97 would extend t...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c282-3GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, for his words and reflections on the passage of the Bill...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c281-2GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 80: 80: Clause 9 , page 8, line 10, leave out ““(““the relevant breach””)”” T...
Lord James of Blackheath | 688 c284-5GC (Link to this contribution) Will the noble Lord, Lord Wedderburn, consider a possible variation to this principle? There is caus...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c284GC (Link to this contribution) I am happy to have got here to speak to Amendment No. 89, and somewhat lucky to have done so. I brie...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 688 c283-4GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 83: 83: Clause 9, page 8, line 15, at end insert— ““( ) An order under subsect...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 688 c288-9GC (Link to this contribution) I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate. There seems to be a fair measure of agr...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 688 c289GC (Link to this contribution) Before my noble friend proceeds further, will she deliver an encomium—or whatever it is—on the sugge...
Baroness Turner of Camden | 688 c289GC (Link to this contribution) Yes. That is what the wording says—well I believe that that is right; that is a point to consider. I...
Lord Clinton-Davis | 688 c288GC (Link to this contribution) Why would it be necessary to reconvene the specific court that considered the original case? Am I no...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c294GC (Link to this contribution) Well, I take the noble Lord's point, but the history of how the DPP has operated has shown that we c...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c290-1GC (Link to this contribution) The first limb of the noble Lord's amendment seeks to reduce the likelihood of a convicted organisat...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c300-1GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 95: 95: Clause 22 , page 14, line 8, at end insert— ““( ) in any place outside...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c295GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord makes a case and puts an argument with which we do not ultimately agree. The way in w...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c297-8GC (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may make a brief point. The amendment is couched in terms of the limitation period provide...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 688 c298GC (Link to this contribution) I am very much obliged to the noble Lord for drawing attention to this fact. In many civil cases, th...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c308GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Wedderburn, for anticipating my words. I can read between...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c306GC (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord for paying tribute to us for giving this matter some thought. H...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c302GC (Link to this contribution) Oddly enough, this is probably an area best left to the judges, partly because the circumstances, in...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c307GC (Link to this contribution) I understand where the noble Lord is coming from. During my political life I had to deal with a case...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c306GC (Link to this contribution) I am sure that the noble Lord knows that we often express sympathy for amendments, and sometimes sup...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c283GC (Link to this contribution) I am. I do. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendments Nos...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c285GC (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord raises a most interesting point. Perhaps I may answer him in two, or possibly three, ...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c287GC (Link to this contribution) I think that the noble Lord is progressing from Amendment No. 89, on which I wish to comment. It doe...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c287-8GC (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Wedderburn, for his elucidation. Clearly, we will need to refl...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c293-4GC (Link to this contribution) Clause 15 stipulates that the consent of the Director of Public Prosecutions, or the DPP for Norther...
Lord Razzall | 688 c291-2GC (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his quasi-positive response. When we talk about longer term considerations,...
Lord Razzall | 688 c292GC (Link to this contribution) I suppose from the Government’s point of view this is really a yes or no answer on whether they are ...
Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 688 c296-7GC (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 93: 93: After Clause 16, insert the following new Clause— ““Limitation of proc...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c297GC (Link to this contribution) I find the arguments of the noble and learned Lord very persuasive indeed, and I support the amendme...
Lord Bassam of Brighton | 688 c303-6GC (Link to this contribution) I thought that that last peroration by the noble Lord, Lord James, was very grand, and I am sure tha...
Lord James of Blackheath | 688 c302-3GC (Link to this contribution) I wholly agree with the noble Lord, Lord Wedderburn, that this would be best left to the judges. The...
Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 688 c307GC (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister finally sits down, it should be said that a good deal of sympathy is a two-way s...
Lord Hunt of Wirral | 688 c306-7GC (Link to this contribution) That was a fascinating response. I think that the Minister is saying that nothing has happened in th...
Lord Brougham and Vaux | 688 c281GC (Link to this contribution) Welcome to the fourth day of the Bill. I am sorry that we have been moved to this Room, but health a...
Subjects
Compensation Courts Companies Court orders Convictions Crown Prosecution Service Corporate manslaughter Enforcement Jurisdiction Health and safety Judgements Powers Prosecutions Publicity Limitation of actions Negligence Victims
Legislation
Corporate Manslaughter and Corporate Homicide Bill 2005-06 to 2006-07
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