Debate on bill on Monday, 26 February 2007, in the House of Lords.

Mental Health Bill [HL]

Mental Health Bill (HL). Lords Report stage second day. Part 2 of 3 records.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 689 c1392-432
Session: 2006-07
Department: Department of Health
Legislative stage: Report stage
Procedure: Government defeats; New clauses
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Mental Health Bill (HL). As amended in Committee (HL).
Monday, 29 January 2007
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1431-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 54: 54: Schedule 3, page 60, line 14, leave out paragraph 35 and insert— ““Ext...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1432 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is the potential in theory for a patient to meet the criteria for compulsion in one ...; Earl Howe | 689 c1432 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, my noble friend Lady Carnegie, who unfortunately cannot be here, has asked me to express h...; Earl Howe | 689 c1427-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 46A and 47: 46A: Clause 26 , page 19, line 32, at end insert— ““(4A) The res...; Earl Howe | 689 c1427 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 45A: 45A: Clause 26 , page 19, line 31, leave out from ““report”” to end of li...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1430 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Patel, argued as persuasively for this amendment today as he did in C...; Earl Howe | 689 c1427 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his reply and take note of his comments. He described the amendme...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1425-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Earl, Lord Howe, for his amendment, which seeks to set a time l...; Earl Howe | 689 c1424-5 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 44: 44: Clause 26 , page 19, line 24, at end insert ““for a maximum of three y...; Earl Howe | 689 c1422 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his reply, although it was disappointing. My fear here i...; Lord Carlile of Berriew | 689 c1421-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, let us suppose that one of the conditions under new Section 17B(3)(e) is that a person rem...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1420-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, obviously these amendments reflect concerns raised in Committee and at Second Reading. The...; Lord Carlile of Berriew | 689 c1420 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support these amendments for all the reasons which have been so cogently expanded by the...; Earl Howe | 689 c1418-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 39: 39: Clause 26 , page 16, leave out line 34 The noble Earl said: My Lords,...; Earl Howe | 689 c1417-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 36A: 36A: Clause 26 , page 15, line 39, leave out from beginning to end of lin...; Earl Howe | 689 c1415 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I understand the Minister’s view on this issue. The fact is that we do not know how many p...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1414-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I apologise for intervening because I know that the House wants to reach a decision, but I...; Earl Howe | 689 c1414 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am most grateful to all noble Lords who have taken part in this debate and to the Minist...; Baroness Meacher | 689 c1411 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the Minister accept that a consultant psychiatrist has had 13 years of training to cr...; Baroness Meacher | 689 c1412 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, of course other professionals may have had several years of training in their professions ...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1411-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I simply do not recognise the possibility that the noble Baroness describes. She referred,...; Lord Alderdice | 689 c1412-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want to draw two issues to the Minister’s attention. First, it is not possible for the r...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1412 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the problem with the route that the noble Baroness is taking is that if a responsible clin...; Lord Soley | 689 c1413 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will my noble friend give way, because I am becoming increasingly confused about this? It ...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1413 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I made it clear early on that, when a doctor prescribes a medication, that is clearly the ...; Baroness Murphy | 689 c1409-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very disappointed overall. Although I have moved a long way personally in my response...; Lord Alderdice | 689 c1409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I want briefly to appeal to the Minister and the House to recognise that these are complex...; Bishop of Worcester | 689 c1409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I just add a brief word about the contrary pull of compulsion and therapy. Obviously, I am...; Lord Patel of Bradford | 689 c1402 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I agree with the points raised by the noble Baroness, Lady Neuberger, and shall add a brie...; Baroness Neuberger | 689 c1400-2 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 33A: 33A: After Clause 25 , insert the following new Clause— ““Nominated perso...; Lord Williamson of Horton | 689 c1400 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for that encouraging reply. I said at the beginning that this was a m...; Lord Carlile of Berriew | 689 c1409 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we support the amendments moved by the noble Earl for the reasons that he has given. I sim...; Earl Howe | 689 c1406-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 33B: 33B: Clause 26, page 15, line 31, at end insert— ““(b) if the responsible...; Baroness Neuberger | 689 c1405-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response. She will hardly be surprised to hear that I am slig...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1402-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baronesses, Lady Barker and Lady Neuberger, for their work on A...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1432 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that further consideration on Report be now adjourned. In moving the Motion,...; Baroness Barker | 689 c1392-3 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 26: 26: After Clause 21, insert the following new Clause— ““Conflicts of inter...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1393 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Barker, for tabling such a sensible set of amendments. We...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1395-6 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendments Nos. 30 and 31: 30: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause— ““Electro-c...; Lord Williamson of Horton | 689 c1396-7 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 32: 32: After Clause 25, insert the following new Clause— ““Independent mental...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1394 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord invites me to give a short response. I am afraid that we were not moved by ...; Lord Carlile of Berriew | 689 c1394-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for his very helpful response. As he realises, I am concerne...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 689 c1398-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment is intended to ensure that advocacy services are available to all patients ...; Baroness Walmsley | 689 c1398 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we on these Benches also support the amendment. The Minister will know that there are prec...; Baroness Howells of St Davids | 689 c1397-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, when I proposed this amendment in Committee, I related to noble Lords the story of a young...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1413-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is a helpful intervention. My noble friend is right: nothing in the Bill requires a p...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1410-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a short, although, if I may say so, sober debate on supervised community tre...; Lord Ramsbotham | 689 c1398 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this amendment has an application to those in custody and possibly to those who come into ...; Lord Patel of Bradford | 689 c1428-30 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 51: 51: Schedule 3 , page 58, line 31, at end insert— ““In section 121 of the ...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 689 c1422 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, these are all hypothetical examples, but my assumption in that circumstance would be that ...; Lord Carlile of Berriew | 689 c1393-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 28: 28: After Clause 21, insert the following new Clause— ““CHAPTER 2A Crimina...; Lord Patel | 689 c1430-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, on a pleasant note, I thank the Minister for agreeing to look at this further and for reco...
Subjects: Consent to medical treatment Carers Conflict of interests Compulsorily detained psychiatric patients Advocacy Electroconvulsive therapy Offenders Medical treatments Patients' rights Mental health services Mental health Relatives Scotland Young people Community treatment orders
Legislation: Mental Health Bill (HL) 2006-07
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Mental Health Bill [HL]

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