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Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Tuesday, 8 January 2008, in the House of Lords.

Climate Change Bill [HL]

Climate Change Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage third day. Clauses 13 to 18 agreed to. Clause 19 under consideration. Part 2 of 2 records.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
697 c823-42 
Session
2007-08
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Legislative stage
Committee stage
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Lord Rooker | 697 c842 (Link to this contribution) I think I had better say yes to that and if I am wrong I will correct it tomorrow.
Lord Redesdale | 697 c842 (Link to this contribution) Since the committee is coming up with a set figure for greenhouse gases, will that be implemented ac...
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Lord Rooker | 697 c840-2 (Link to this contribution) I shall try to answer the points, but one of the most confusing things for me is that I am respondin...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 697 c840 (Link to this contribution) Without differing from my noble friend, who I love dearly, paragraph (b) refers to gases designated ...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 697 c842 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move that the House do now resume. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to.
Lord Teverson | 697 c842 (Link to this contribution) The reason for including a debate on whether Clause 20 should stand part is because if the amendment...
Lord Dixon-Smith | 697 c836 (Link to this contribution) I must pursue this a wee bit further. I accept that if one of the devolved authorities fails for a p...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 697 c837 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for that response. He correctly identified these amendments as being of a probi...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 697 c836-7 (Link to this contribution) There is no responsibility written in the Bill in those terms, but the noble Lord will recognise tha...
Lord Crickhowell | 697 c839-40 (Link to this contribution) At this point in the evening I do not want to delay the Committee on what is an extremely complicate...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 697 c839 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether the Minister will cast his mind back to the recent Greater London Authority legisla...
Baroness Byford | 697 c840 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether it is just me who is getting confused by the hour. Clause 19(1)(a) clearly defines ...
Baroness Fookes | 697 c838 (Link to this contribution) If this amendment were to be agreed, I could not call Amendment No. 101 by reason of pre-emption.
Lord Teverson | 697 c837-8 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 99: 99: Clause 19, page 10, line 17, leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and inse...
Lord Redesdale | 697 c839 (Link to this contribution) I very much hope that the Minister will take on board this amendment. One problem that we often unde...
Duke of Montrose | 697 c838-9 (Link to this contribution) This has become an interesting discussion and I shall be keen to hear the Minister’s reply. In parti...
Baroness Young of Old Scone | 697 c829 (Link to this contribution) I support the amendment proposed by the noble Baroness, Lady Miller of Chilthorne Domer, in principl...
Earl Cathcart | 697 c829 (Link to this contribution) We understand that the amendment would change the wording of what is to be required in the final sta...
Lord Rooker | 697 c828 (Link to this contribution) It goes without saying; therefore, it is always best to say it. Yes, naturally, those who have parti...
Earl Cathcart | 697 c828 (Link to this contribution) That was all very interesting. Amendment No. 77, which would have replaced ““1%”” with ““0.5%””, was...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 697 c828-9 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 82: 82: Clause 14, page 7, line 36, after first ““of”” insert ““domestic”” Th...
Lord Teverson | 697 c828 (Link to this contribution) As the noble Lord will be aware, the scheme post 2012 has not yet been agreed so we do not know what...
Lord Rooker | 697 c828 (Link to this contribution) I am not going to argue with the noble Lord—he knows more about this than I do—but my note says that...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 697 c828 (Link to this contribution) Am I right in assuming that everybody else will be covered with a copy of his letter to the noble Lo...
Lord Rooker | 697 c827-8 (Link to this contribution) I am not saying that we are going to go over from one budget to another. We are in agreement with th...
Lord Teverson | 697 c827 (Link to this contribution) The supposition was that it was the equivalent of borrowing under the EU ETS and that certificates u...
Lord Rooker | 697 c827 (Link to this contribution) I hope I have got this right. I shall take advice if I have not. I was working within the five-year ...
Lord Rooker | 697 c825-6 (Link to this contribution) Although we are dealing with small figures here, I shall kick off by saying that the figure of 1 per...
Lord Teverson | 697 c827 (Link to this contribution) I do not think the Minister is correct. The EU ETS is a trading system not a target system. Article ...
Lord Jay of Ewelme | 697 c824 (Link to this contribution) I take a slightly different view from that of the noble Lords who have spoken so far because I do se...
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville | 697 c825 (Link to this contribution) Again, my remarks will be very brief. I am not intervening on the subject of the difference between ...
Lord Teverson | 697 c823-4 (Link to this contribution) I disagree with the noble Earl’s amendment. On these Benches we think that we should just simplify t...
Baroness Northover | 697 c824 (Link to this contribution) I rise to support my noble friend Lord Teverson on this point. There is a real risk that if Governme...
Earl Cathcart | 697 c823 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 77: 77: Clause 13, page 7, line 18, leave out ““1%”” and insert ““0.5%”” The ...
Lord Rooker | 697 c832 (Link to this contribution) I have just found the phrase. I did use the phrase—in fact, it is in the Bill. On the last line of p...
Earl Cathcart | 697 c832-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Lord, Lord Teverson, for coming to my rescue and saving me a letter, and I thank t...
Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 697 c833-4 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 95: 95: Clause 17, page 9, line 30, leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and inser...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 697 c834-5 (Link to this contribution) If the noble Lord, Lord Taylor, considers that we are moving at a dizzying pace, it shows how well h...
Baroness Byford | 697 c835 (Link to this contribution) I wonder if the Minister could clarify something for me. If for any reason one of the devolved Admin...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 697 c835 (Link to this contribution) The answer to the noble Baroness is that it is a UK symbol of account and therefore the measurement ...
Baroness Byford | 697 c835-6 (Link to this contribution) I might come back again on that one. For example, on waste and recycling, at the moment I understand...
Lord Teverson | 697 c832 (Link to this contribution) I suggest that the different carbon units are probably the two Kyoto mechanism ones, the joint imple...
Duke of Montrose | 697 c832 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in the Minister’s reply on the relationship with the devolved Administrations. It so...
Lord Rooker | 697 c831-2 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to make a cheap point, because I am very conscious of the fact that in the past quarte...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 697 c830 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Minister for that response, which I very much welcome, because, with all the ex...
Earl Cathcart | 697 c831 (Link to this contribution) moved Amendment No. 85: 85: Clause 14, page 8, line 8, at end insert— ““( ) It must— (a) state the...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 697 c830 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Minister for his reply. I accept that Clause 24 gives definitions, but the Minister spok...
Lord Rooker | 697 c830 (Link to this contribution) In advance of reaching Clause 24, I am quite happy to give a commitment that we will look again at t...
Lord Rooker | 697 c831 (Link to this contribution) No, no; with respect, the amendment—your amendment—refers to different types of carbon unit. I would...
Baroness Miller of Chilthorne Domer | 697 c831 (Link to this contribution) Before I decide whether or not I am at all minded to support this amendment, what different types of...
Earl Cathcart | 697 c831 (Link to this contribution) I think that the Minister said that there were different types—
Lord Rooker | 697 c829-30 (Link to this contribution) Again, I come before you in answering this debate on Clause 14 to refer to another clause that we ha...
Lord Crickhowell | 697 c842 (Link to this contribution) I posed particularly the question about the recommendations of the Joint Committee and I thank the M...
Lord Davies of Oldham | 697 c836 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness will recognise that the targets and the compliance of the devolved Administration...
Subjects
Devolved matters Climate change Carbon dioxide Environment protection Pollution control Standards Carbon emissions Climate Change Committee Carbon budgets
Legislation
Climate Change Bill (HL) 2007-08
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