Debate on select committee report on Monday, 31 March 2008, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Brabazon of Tara.
House Committee: Fourth Report
Lords debate on motion to agree the fourth report from the House Select Committee (HL 78 2007-08). Amendment by Lord Trefgarne negatived on division (47 to 194). Original motion agreed to on question.
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- 700 c725-44
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- 2007-08
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- House of Lords chamber
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House Committee (HL) fourth report on senior management restructure.
Thursday, 13 March 2008
Parliamentary committees
House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Baroness O'Cathain | 700 c732 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may ask the noble Lord for clarification. Where does it say in the report that t...
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Lord Strathclyde | 700 c731 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Chairman of Committees will answer the specific point about the views of Black Rod. My...
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Lord McNally | 700 c731-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was eager to get in before the noble Lord, Lord Strathclyde, so that I could defend his ...
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Lord Strathclyde | 700 c730 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I did not intend to join this short debate quite so early, but I have been drawn to my fee...
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Lord Waddington | 700 c730-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will my noble friend give way on this point? Many of us think that Black Rod himself is be...
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Lord Trefgarne | 700 c728-30 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps there is a very senior lady officer somewhere in the Armed Forces ready to take ov...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c725-7 (Link to this contribution) rose to move, That the fourth report from the Select Committee (HL Paper 78) be agreed to. The repo...
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Lord Trefgarne | 700 c727-8 (Link to this contribution) rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion, at end to insert ““save for the words ““the Management...
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Lord Tebbit | 700 c737 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not want to prolong the debate, but the noble Lord should know that this building is ...
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Lord Bilston | 700 c736-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, may I make a comment? I support the recommendation that is before us today. I declare an i...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c739 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will attempt to cover some of the points that have been made. If I miss any, I have no d...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c739-40 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps they would not be smoke-filled rooms these days, but he said that it was done behi...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c737-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we need to begin to wind the debate up. I speak as a member of the House Committee, and as...
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Lord McNally | 700 c732 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I assure the noble Baroness that we are but at the foothills of giving this Parliament the...
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Viscount Montgomery of Alamein | 700 c736 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I just have one question. In view of the fact that the House is to be reformed in due cour...
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Lady Saltoun of Abernethy | 700 c736 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have been told that the new Director of Facilities will receive a salary of £100,000 a ...
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Lord Denham | 700 c736 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that the noble Lord the Lord Chairman of Committees will not be misled by the tone ...
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Lord Lloyd of Berwick | 700 c735-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like the noble Lord, Lord Williamson, during my period on the House Committee I was very w...
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Lord Tebbit | 700 c734-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I look at this from the attitude of being a Conservative. As noble Lords may know, there a...
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Lord Williamson of Horton | 700 c734 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was not a member of the House Committee when this matter was discussed and the fourth re...
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Lord Wedderburn of Charlton | 700 c734 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope the House will recognise that the noble Lord, Lord McNally, made two points of some...
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Earl Ferrers | 700 c733-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I find myself rather pulled about in his debate. One does not like to hear the House argui...
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Baroness Ashton of Upholland | 700 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if I read the House right, we are at the end of the debate and it is for the noble Lord, L...
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Lord Trefgarne | 700 c741-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am obliged to the noble Baroness. I have two things to say. First, I am not opposed to t...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c740-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that most noble Lords would say that it would. The fact that noble Lords will have...
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Lord Tebbit | 700 c740 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I sought to question whether all this extra expenditure would advance the cause of Parliam...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c740 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as I said before, we are not talking about the present Black Rod; we are talking about the...
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Lord Waddington | 700 c740 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, that is not quite the question that I asked. I suggested that Black Rod is better placed t...
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Lord Elton | 700 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the noble Lord give an assurance on a fairly technical matter? Black Rod will continu...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Viscount, Lord Montgomery, also raised that point. I was going to say to him but...
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Lord Tebbit | 700 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a very important question was raised. Will the target for these facilities be to meet the ...
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Lord Brabazon of Tara | 700 c741 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I can give an assurance that, as now, works that are required for reasons of security—for ...
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Baroness D'Souza | 700 c733 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, much of what I wanted to say has been said by the previous two speakers, with whom I agree...
- Subjects
- Accountability Buildings House of Lords Facilities Management Offices Repairs and maintenance Reorganisation Black Rod Refreshment Department (HL) Director of Facilities
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