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Adjournment debate on Thursday, 5 March 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Andrew Dismore. The answering member was Phil Hope.

Adults with Learning Disabilities

Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on adults with learning disabilities. (Inc ref to the Human Rights Joint Select Committee seventh report of session 2007-08, HC 73, and the Government's response, Cm 7378, and further response, Cm 7536.)

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Type
Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
488 c323-68WH 
Session
2008-09
Department
Department of Health
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
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Proceeding contributions
John Barrett | 488 c349WH (Link to this contribution) That is a key factor in the entire costing of the massive costs that are involved in care. Whatever ...
Nicholas Winterton | 488 c348-9WH (Link to this contribution) Has the hon. Gentleman given any thought to the role played by parents who look after an adult son o...
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John Barrett | 488 c345-8WH (Link to this contribution) Today's debate not only is on an important subject that requires parliamentary time, but is at the h...
Oliver Letwin | 488 c344-5WH (Link to this contribution) That is indeed the accepted figure; I think it is wrong, but that is another issue. As the hon. Gent...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c344WH (Link to this contribution) I may be able to help the right hon. Gentleman, as I used to have ministerial responsibility for hea...
Oliver Letwin | 488 c344WH (Link to this contribution) My intuition is exactly the same as my hon. Friend's, but I am pretty sure that the Minister will no...
Phil Hope | 488 c358WH (Link to this contribution) We are not here to debate the Bill or the convention, so I will not address the specifics of that qu...
Stephen O'Brien | 488 c358WH (Link to this contribution) That is an important statement, and I am grateful to the Minister for what he has just said. Having ...
Phil Hope | 488 c356-8WH (Link to this contribution) May I start by thanking my hon. Friend the Member for Hendon (Mr. Dismore) both for chairing the Joi...
Stephen O'Brien | 488 c349-56WH (Link to this contribution) I, too, begin by congratulating the hon. Member for Hendon (Mr. Dismore) and his Select Committee on...
Stephen O'Brien | 488 c360-1WH (Link to this contribution) I am greatly encouraged by that response to the intervention from my hon. Friend the Member for Macc...
Phil Hope | 488 c360WH (Link to this contribution) Of course. Quite rightly, many third sector organisations—user-led organisations in particular—not o...
Phil Hope | 488 c361-2WH (Link to this contribution) I am perfectly happy to take those points back, because I do this all the time inside Government—sup...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c358WH (Link to this contribution) On the same issue, but at a slight tangent, the Minister referred to section 6 of the Human Rights A...
Nicholas Winterton | 488 c359-60WH (Link to this contribution) One reason why I have come to the debate and sat through certainly three quarters of it so far—I was...
Phil Hope | 488 c358-9WH (Link to this contribution) I will certainly draw attention to the point that my hon. Friend raised. He will know far better tha...
Phil Hope | 488 c362WH (Link to this contribution) Two hon. Members are seeking to intervene. I shall give way to the hon. Lady first.
Ann Winterton | 488 c362WH (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to the Minister. A thought has struck me, following his announcement that there i...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c324WH (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend share my wish to advertise more the positive impact of the Human Rights Act, par...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c324-6WH (Link to this contribution) I agree. Such positive stories do not fit the media narrative. This is not just about case law; ther...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c323-4WH (Link to this contribution) It is a year to the day since we published the report. It takes quite a while for these debates to w...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c331-2WH (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend. Many advocacy groups are dependent on charitable funds and live a prett...
Andrew Pelling | 488 c332WH (Link to this contribution) I begin with two apologies: first, I have an appointment in my constituency so I cannot stay until t...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c332-3WH (Link to this contribution) That is a very worthwhile suggestion. As I said earlier, with the appropriate support people with le...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c327-9WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my right hon. Friend. He has a good and strong record in standing up for people wit...
Oliver Letwin | 488 c329WH (Link to this contribution) At a certain point in my life, I spent a lot of time in prison—prisons, I should say. I was enormous...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c329-30WH (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. There are many people in prison with learning difficul...
David Drew | 488 c330WH (Link to this contribution) Friends of mine are trying to set up such an independent group, and the biggest problem is the lack ...
David Drew | 488 c326WH (Link to this contribution) What my hon. Friend says is important. When I first stood for Parliament in 1992, I was shocked to f...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c326-7WH (Link to this contribution) I very much agree with my hon. Friend. I shall say a little more about Parliament later, but the mai...
Tom Clarke | 488 c327WH (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for giving way, and I apologise for the fact that have to leave early to catc...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c338WH (Link to this contribution) I am speaking from memory, because I do not have a copy of the first print with me, but I think that...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c338WH (Link to this contribution) Perhaps that was the case, and it was originally on yellow paper. If so, the Government's response w...
Stephen O'Brien | 488 c337WH (Link to this contribution) I was not going to intervene, but I was not planning to raise this matter when I make a speech. I do...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c337-8WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right; that would make an excellent inquiry for the Committee in future. His i...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c338WH (Link to this contribution) The short answer is that we do not have the money in the Select Committee budget to do that. That is...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c338-40WH (Link to this contribution) That is exactly the point that I was making. I have criticisms to make of the Government as well, be...
Nicholas Winterton | 488 c336-7WH (Link to this contribution) I am following the hon. Gentleman's remarks carefully. He is dealing with extremely sensitive issues...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c337WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and he is making the point for me somewhat better than I was...
James Duddridge | 488 c333-4WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Committee and the joint Chair on the excellent work that they have done on this i...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c334-6WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Rochford and Southend, East (James Duddridge) has given us a horrifying example ...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c341WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right that the Bill and the report have many things in common.
Oliver Letwin | 488 c341WH (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman moves on, I want to press him on a question that relates to what my hon. F...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c341-3WH (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and the prison service, which he mentioned earlier, is...
Oliver Letwin | 488 c343-4WH (Link to this contribution) My contribution will be brief. This is an interesting and important debate, and I am delighted to fo...
Nicholas Winterton | 488 c344WH (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is absolutely right. It would be interesting if the Minister mentioned in his r...
Nicholas Winterton | 488 c340WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is speaking with great sensitivity and, in many ways, nobody can disagree with hi...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c340WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has cut to the heart of the matter, but I hope he will forgive me for not respond...
James Duddridge | 488 c341WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman mentioned autism. The Autism Bill, which the House agreed to send to Public Bill ...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c341WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. Modesty forbids me from encouraging him to read my speech in...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c341WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for referring to the debate on the Autism Bill last Friday. I did no...
Phil Hope | 488 c366-7WH (Link to this contribution) I shall not get drawn into that debate. All that I can tell the hon. Gentleman is that Lord Bradley,...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c367-8WH (Link to this contribution) I do not want to say a great deal. We have had a very well-informed debate. My hon. Friend the Membe...
Phil Hope | 488 c365-6WH (Link to this contribution) It is tempting for me to be drawn into this debate. I was once a Skills Minister responsible for off...
Nicholas Winterton | 488 c366WH (Link to this contribution) What are the Government doing about adults with learning difficulties, perhaps complicated by a ment...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c362WH (Link to this contribution) I take my hon. Friend back to what he said about his new command structure and the importance of inv...
Phil Hope | 488 c362-3WH (Link to this contribution) I am sure that those points will be made with vigour at the meetings of the national board. The DWP ...
Nicholas Winterton | 488 c363WH (Link to this contribution) How urgently is the Minister treating the matter? Many of us have copies of the excellent briefing p...
Phil Hope | 488 c363WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. We need to improve front-line skills so that those statistic...
Phil Hope | 488 c362WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady addresses the very points that I was about to come on to. We have put in place specifi...
Stephen O'Brien | 488 c365WH (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend the Member for West Dorset (Mr. Letwin) touched on that matter, and has conduct...
Phil Hope | 488 c364WH (Link to this contribution) Yes, it is clear that we must raise awareness among existing staff; it is not just about new entrant...
Andrew Dismore | 488 c363WH (Link to this contribution) I take the Minister's point about training, but we must ensure that we train not only new entrants t...
Phil Hope | 488 c364-5WH (Link to this contribution) That is a good point. Indeed, all employers should consider such opportunities. We should not have s...
Stephen Ladyman | 488 c364WH (Link to this contribution) I remind my hon. Friend that there is a bigger employer than the NHS, although the work force is spl...
Subjects
Disability Disclosure of information Disability aids Employment Health services Education Human rights Discrimination Learning disability Training Personal budgets Reasonable adjustments
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