Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Thursday, 30 April 2009, in the House of Lords.

Cohabitation Bill [HL]

Cohabitation Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage first day. Clause 1 agreed to. Clause 2 under consideration. Amendment 3 disagreed to on division (24 votes to 11).

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 710 c410-32
Session: 2008-09
Legislative stage: Committee stage
Procedure: Private members' bills proceedings
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Cohabitation Bill (HL).
Thursday, 11 December 2008
Bills
House of Lords
Proceeding contributions: Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c421 (Link to this contribution) I think therefore that procedurally the right thing for me to do now is to move Amendment 1. I beg t...; Lord Brett | 710 c420-1 (Link to this contribution) Before I come to the amendment, perhaps I should declare an interest as a cohabitee. That is not ent...; Bishop of Southwark | 710 c420 (Link to this contribution) The right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Winchester, who sadly cannot be present this evening, spoke...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 710 c418-20 (Link to this contribution) In that case, I will speak on Amendment 1, which I strongly support. I notice that, although the nob...; Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 710 c421 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Baroness will have to speak to Amendment 4 in its place when we get there.; Baroness Deech | 710 c421 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 2 2: Clause 2, page 2, line 7, leave out paragraph (b); Baroness Butler-Sloss | 710 c418 (Link to this contribution) It appears to me as though it would be appropriate for me to speak on Amendment 1 and allow Amendmen...; Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 710 c418 (Link to this contribution) Although it is not for me to tell anyone what to do, I think it may help if we degroup these two ame...; Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 710 c417 (Link to this contribution) I accept all the points about there being no binding rules, but it seems to me that the normal court...; Lord Henley | 710 c417 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for the repeated promotion of my status in the peerage, but I assure the noble Lo...; Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 710 c417 (Link to this contribution) What I was trying to explain to the noble Lord is that it may be a courtesy for the person in whose ...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c417 (Link to this contribution) I did move the first amendment. Amendment 4 is grouped with Amendment 1.; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 710 c418 (Link to this contribution) I have a feeling that Amendment 4 is in my name. I should like to respond on Amendment 1 and then mo...; Lord Henley | 710 c418 (Link to this contribution) Shall we leave it to the noble Lord, Lord Lester, to say whatever he wants to? It might be that the ...; Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton | 710 c418 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Baroness needs only to speak to Amendment 4, as only one Motion can be before ...; Lord Henley | 710 c418 (Link to this contribution) I may have slightly confused the Committee. I was trying to make it clear that we are talking to Ame...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c417 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Viscount sits down, may I ask for his help? He interrupted my opening speech, and I...; Baroness Deech | 710 c415-6 (Link to this contribution) I thank the noble Baroness for her helpful intervention. I wish to explain that by saying some of th...; Lord Henley | 710 c415 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, responds, perhaps I may remind the noble Baroness, Lady Thoma...; Baroness Thomas of Walliswood | 710 c415 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely sorry to interrupt the noble Baroness. She is speaking to the amendments—hers is the ...; Baroness Deech | 710 c412-5 (Link to this contribution) I say what I do about this amendment with certain principles behind me which also apply to all the a...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c411-2 (Link to this contribution) I certainly did not intend to be rude and I apologise if I seem to have been impolite. I shall there...; Lord Henley | 710 c411 (Link to this contribution) No. I just find it extraordinary that the noble Lord did not bother to speak beforehand to either my...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c411 (Link to this contribution) It is entirely in the hands of the Committee. However, having begun to explain the main purposes of ...; Lord Henley | 710 c411 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether I may intervene in the fascinating opening speech of the noble Lord, Lord Lester. M...; Lord Henley | 710 c416-7 (Link to this contribution) I too have my name down to the amendment in the name of the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, and I suppor...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c410-1 (Link to this contribution) In moving Amendment 1 I shall speak also to Amendment 4, with which it is grouped. I am happy to rep...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c410 (Link to this contribution) Clause 1 agreed to. Clause 2 ["Cohabitant"]: Amendment 1 1: Clause 2, page 2, line 3, leave out "...; Baroness Deech | 710 c428 (Link to this contribution) I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 2 withdrawn.; Lord Henley | 710 c429 (Link to this contribution) I fully support the noble Baroness, Lady Deech, in Amendment 3, which is grouped with Amendments 12 ...; Baroness Deech | 710 c428-9 (Link to this contribution) This amendment and those coupled with it are about retrospectivity. One of the striking features abo...; Baroness Deech | 710 c428 (Link to this contribution) Amendment 3 3: Clause 2, page 2, line 12, leave out "taken into account" and insert "disregarded"; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c430-1 (Link to this contribution) I shall deal with a number of points. First, the noble Lord, Lord Henley, asked how the court would ...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 710 c429-30 (Link to this contribution) I am afraid that the noble Lord, Lord Henley, will have to hear me give the answer first. There is n...; Lord Pannick | 710 c430 (Link to this contribution) I declare another interest. I was a pupil of my noble friend Lady Deech at Oxford. I always listened...; Baroness Deech | 710 c431-2 (Link to this contribution) A couple who found themselves before the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, would be for...; Baroness Deech | 710 c424-5 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord mentioned living together as a couple and then went on to say that this implies a sex...; Lord Henley | 710 c425-6 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister responds, I will say a word or two. I assure the noble Lord, Lord Lester of Hern...; Baroness Deech | 710 c427 (Link to this contribution) That is reassuring. One of the scenarios we feared is questions when determining finance about the e...; Lord Brett | 710 c427-8 (Link to this contribution) I rise to inform the debate and not particularly to respond to it. These linked amendments effective...; Lord Pannick | 710 c426 (Link to this contribution) Before the Minister gives us the benefit of the view of the Government, perhaps I may say a few word...; Baroness Deech | 710 c426-7 (Link to this contribution) It is reassuring to hear the support for the amendment. An answer to two small points would enable m...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c427 (Link to this contribution) I did not mean to say that it was as narrow as that. The way it has just been put by the noble and l...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 710 c422-3 (Link to this contribution) I wonder if I would be forgiven for saying that the current law in relation to footballers’ wives co...; Baroness Deech | 710 c421-2 (Link to this contribution) This amendment seeks to highlight the fact that such advantages as might be conferred by this Bill w...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c423-4 (Link to this contribution) I have great sympathy with the problem of the Burden sisters and others. During the consultation on ...; Baroness Deech | 710 c423 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I beg to move.; Baroness Deech | 710 c423 (Link to this contribution) I completely share the concerns of the noble Baroness. Later we shall come to an amendment in which ...; Baroness Pitkeathley | 710 c423 (Link to this contribution) Can the Committee be clear about whether the noble Baroness has moved Amendment 2? It is, ""page 2, ...; Baroness Deech | 710 c423 (Link to this contribution) I am referring to footballers’ girlfriends and to the clause in the Bill that, at the moment, includ...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 710 c425 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness, Lady Deech, should do justice to herself. She knows perfectly well that the reas...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 710 c426 (Link to this contribution) I, too, have the greatest possible sympathy with the amendment and with the noble Baroness in her pr...; Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws | 710 c423 (Link to this contribution) How would the noble Baroness answer the question about whether her amendment would drive a coach and...; Baroness Butler-Sloss | 710 c421 (Link to this contribution) If I might respectfully say so, I think it should be Amendment 4.
Subjects: Children Cohabitation Finance Families Inheritance tax Family proceedings Maintenance Separation
Legislation: Cohabitation Bill (HL) 2008-09
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Cohabitation Bill [HL]

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