Debates on delegated legislation on Wednesday, 20 May 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Jeremy Hunt. The answering member was Andy Burnham.
Electronic Communications
Communications (Television Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations 2009. (SI 2009/505). Debate on a motion to revoke. Negatived on division (156 votes to 334).
Secondary information
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 492 c1575-604
- Session
- 2008-09
- Department
- Department for Culture, Media and Sport
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- House of Commons chamber
- Related items
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Communications (Television Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations 2009
Monday, 9 March 2009
Statutory instruments
House of Commons
House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Speaker | 492 c1587 (Link to this contribution) Order. Mr. Speaker imposed a 12-minute limit on Back-Bench speeches. So that I can—I hope—accommodat...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1581 (Link to this contribution) I am aware that colleagues in all parties are concerned about aspects of what the BBC does, and it i...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1582 (Link to this contribution) I will make some progress now, but I shall give way to both hon. Members before I finish speaking. ...
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Barry Sheerman | 492 c1582 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. The hon. Gentleman has made an extensive speech in the ve...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1582 (Link to this contribution) Let me make it absolutely clear that the Secretary of State is distorting what the Leader of Opposit...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1582 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Gentleman, and I hope that he has a good answer to that point.
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Speaker | 492 c1583 (Link to this contribution) I have already made a plea to hon. Members to be brief with their interventions. The intervention wa...
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Mark Pritchard | 492 c1583 (Link to this contribution) I would like to declare an interest: I am a supporter of some parts of the BBC. Talking about old wa...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1583 (Link to this contribution) I get on well with the hon. Member for South-West Surrey, but I take great exception to his saying t...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1583 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a powerful point and I will deal with precisely that issue now. I said that the...
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Paul Farrelly | 492 c1583 (Link to this contribution) It is important that the BBC does not get too big for its boots—indeed, the Select Committee on Cult...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1584 (Link to this contribution) I must make progress. More specifically, the cuts that the hon. Member for South-West Surrey is tod...
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Graham Stuart | 492 c1584 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1584-5 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes an important point. Having visited a couple of times, I know that there is a de...
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David Cairns | 492 c1584 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend is a great champion of broadcasting in the nations and regions. He has already ...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1580 (Link to this contribution) I just wanted to ask the Secretary of State whether he thinks licence fee payers' money is better sp...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1580 (Link to this contribution) I will, but I hope the hon. Gentleman has a good answer.
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Roger Gale | 492 c1580 (Link to this contribution) I might be able to help the Secretary of State. The reason why the BBC is having such problems is th...
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Barry Sheerman | 492 c1581 (Link to this contribution) I believe Labour Members share my view that the BBC is a fantastic organisation, and we will not vot...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1581 (Link to this contribution) I have visited Pacific Quay in Glasgow a few times. It is a major investment by the BBC, at the hear...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1581 (Link to this contribution) I will make progress before giving way. My right hon. Friend the Member for Dulwich and West Norwoo...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1580-1 (Link to this contribution) I take it that support for racing is off the agenda if the hon. Gentleman has his way. Hon. Members ...
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Pete Wishart | 492 c1581 (Link to this contribution) What does the Secretary of State say to Scottish licence fee payers, who face the increases although...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1578 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman talks about so-called disruption to the BBC's business plan. Businesses up and do...
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Speaker | 492 c1578 (Link to this contribution) Order. The time for this debate is very limited and several Back Benchers wish to make contributions...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1579 (Link to this contribution) I support creative risk taking, but socially responsible broadcasters should behave in a socially re...
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Evan Harris | 492 c1579 (Link to this contribution) With regard to the Jonathan Ross-Russell Brand incident—I make no defence of that escapade—will the ...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1579 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely do. My hon. Friend is making exactly the same point as I am about the importance of plu...
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Lord Jackson of Peterborough | 492 c1578-9 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that not only the broadcast media are suffering from inappropriate incursi...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1580 (Link to this contribution) I did hear the chairman's replies, and I thought he made some very sensible and solid points. I also...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1580 (Link to this contribution) Will the Secretary of State give way?
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1579-80 (Link to this contribution) I begin with two points of solid agreement, I think, between the hon. Member for South-West Surrey (...
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William Cash | 492 c1580 (Link to this contribution) Did the Secretary of State hear a fascinating item on the "Today" programme this morning in which Sa...
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Paul Farrelly | 492 c1578 (Link to this contribution) The point about the current impact on production has been well made by my hon. Friends. The BBC is a...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1578 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend makes an important point. In fact, 50 people at the BBC are paid more than the ...
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Lord Redwood | 492 c1577 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that when a lot of public money is taken in small sums from people without...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1577 (Link to this contribution) It is excellent that the BBC is investing in our regions. However, we also have to consider whether ...
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Barry Sheerman | 492 c1577 (Link to this contribution) In Yorkshire, we have just discovered that ITV is closing down "Heartbeat", "A Touch of Frost" and "...
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Anne Begg | 492 c1577 (Link to this contribution) I should like to pick up the point made by my hon. Friend the Member for Inverclyde (David Cairns). ...
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David Cairns | 492 c1577 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman, who has been generous in giving way. I would understand the log...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1577 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman does not appreciate the logic of my argument. If there is a huge disparity betwee...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1576 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman suggesting that the only way to deal with the commercial predicament faced by ...
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David Cairns | 492 c1576 (Link to this contribution) Before the previous intervention, the hon. Gentleman made the entirely accurate point that the adver...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1576 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend on that point. I visited some independent production studios ...
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Philip Davies | 492 c1575 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that his last point gets to the heart of the matter? Since the licence fee...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1575 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That the Communications (Television Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations 2009 (S.I., 20...
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William Cash | 492 c1576 (Link to this contribution) On the question of independent producers, is my hon. Friend concerned about the uncompetitive nature...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1575-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend does a very good job of developing my argument for me. I shall continue if I may, but...
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John Whittingdale | 492 c1591 (Link to this contribution) Is the hon. Gentleman suggesting that in the run-up to the previous BBC settlement, the BBC was, in ...
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John Whittingdale | 492 c1592 (Link to this contribution) I warmly congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for South-West Surrey (Mr. Hunt) on initiating this ...
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John Grogan | 492 c1591-2 (Link to this contribution) This is a question of balance, and of whether we should have the review once every six or seven year...
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Philip Davies | 492 c1592-3 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that, as opposed to the BBC press release masquerading as the Liberal Demo...
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John Whittingdale | 492 c1593 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. The Conservatives are entirely familiar with the claim that ther...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1593 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is of course absolutely right to describe the pressure on established media busin...
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John Whittingdale | 492 c1593-4 (Link to this contribution) We simply cannot ignore the environment in which the BBC is operating. That is not to say that the B...
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Austin Mitchell | 492 c1594 (Link to this contribution) The Opposition's pathetic and opportunistic proposal tells us more about the intellectual decline of...
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Philip Davies | 492 c1594 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
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Austin Mitchell | 492 c1594-5 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to embark on top-slicing, and neither does the National Union of Journalists or anyone...
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Philip Davies | 492 c1594 (Link to this contribution) And I am very grateful too, but does the hon. Gentleman agree that top-slicing was recommended by th...
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Austin Mitchell | 492 c1594 (Link to this contribution) I always give way to Shipley.
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William Cash | 492 c1596-7 (Link to this contribution) In an intervention on my party's Front-Bench spokesman, I raised the question of the BBC's accounts,...
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Lord Vaizey of Didcot | 492 c1595 (Link to this contribution) The argument is that the money should go back to the licence fee payer—the taxpayer.
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Austin Mitchell | 492 c1595-6 (Link to this contribution) Well, that would be a very generous donation to everybody. That would make no difference to most peo...
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Rob Wilson | 492 c1597-8 (Link to this contribution) I am a supporter of the BBC and value its history. I had intended to spend some time talking about t...
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Philip Davies | 492 c1599 (Link to this contribution) May I have two minutes?
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Speaker | 492 c1599 (Link to this contribution) Order. I have a difficulty, because the Secretary of State would like to make a short reply and the ...
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Speaker | 492 c1599 (Link to this contribution) Mr. Davies can have one minute, and I will allow the balance to the Secretary of State.
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Rob Wilson | 492 c1598-9 (Link to this contribution) Thank you very much. The BBC continues to demonstrate scant regard for balance and decency. At the ...
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Philip Davies | 492 c1599 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that one minute is about as much as people will be able to stomach from me anyway; your ju...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1599-600 (Link to this contribution) With the leave of the House, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I should like to make a few brief comments in concl...
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Speaker | 492 c1600 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby.
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Lord Redwood | 492 c1585 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State says that the BBC makes provision for the nations and regions, but when will ...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1585 (Link to this contribution) I have given way to the hon. Member for Stone (Mr. Cash) once already, and I want to make some progr...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1585 (Link to this contribution) I do not know how often the right hon. Gentleman travels north of Watford, but I can tell him that S...
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David Cairns | 492 c1585 (Link to this contribution) What country does he think Salford is in?
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Lord Redwood | 492 c1585 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman is deliberately misconstruing what I said. The point is that in its content...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1585-6 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman has made his point and there is no need to reply to it. I shall begin to co...
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Graham Stuart | 492 c1586 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker. I apologise for failing to declare an interest. As a dire...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1586 (Link to this contribution) The BBC fulfils a different role; it is not a commercial broadcaster. It is there to provide content...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1586 (Link to this contribution) I am glad they are. To conclude, let us be clear what today's debate is about. It is about posturin...
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Speaker | 492 c1586 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman's comments will now be on the record.
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Speaker | 492 c1586 (Link to this contribution) Order. It is obvious that the Secretary of State is no longer prepared to give way.
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1586 (Link to this contribution) When in January 2007, my right hon. Friend the Member for Dulwich and West Norwood introduced the BB...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1587 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has brought a motion before the House today and he is asking us to vote on the li...
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Lord Foster of Bath | 492 c1587-8 (Link to this contribution) For once, I am delighted to follow the Secretary of State. In my view, the Tory proposal is a dange...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1587 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State described our motion as an ill-conceived Tory attack, so can he tell me why e...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1587 (Link to this contribution) I will give way one last time, but then I am going to finish.
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1588 (Link to this contribution) Can the hon. Gentleman explain why, if the Tory proposal is so dangerous, two members of his party's...
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Lord Foster of Bath | 492 c1588 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that we shall have to see whether, after those two hon. Members have read the Hansard repo...
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John Grogan | 492 c1590-1 (Link to this contribution) I am encouraged by some of the gestures coming from those on the Opposition Front Bench suggesting t...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1590 (Link to this contribution) indicated dissent.
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John Grogan | 492 c1590 (Link to this contribution) I have not signed the early-day motion in question, and I rise briefly to support the Government and...
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Lord Foster of Bath | 492 c1589-90 (Link to this contribution) I will give way to the hon. Gentleman shortly, if he wishes to intervene then. We know that the BBC'...
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Lord Foster of Bath | 492 c1589 (Link to this contribution) I wish I had not given way to the hon. Gentleman because I asked him a clear question: where does hi...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1583 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I should have made the point to the hon. Member for South-West Surrey a moment ago that the ...
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Andy Burnham | 492 c1580 (Link to this contribution) I was not making that point. I was hoping that the hon. Gentleman would have the good grace to say t...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1577 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Lady for her intervention. We are talking about a £68 million rise in the ...
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Graham Stuart | 492 c1586 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to the Secretary of State, who is being most kind in finally giving way to m...
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Jeremy Hunt | 492 c1589 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman asks me to suggest ways in which that £68 million can be found. We have talked ab...
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