Adjournment debate on Thursday, 10 December 2009, in the House of Commons, led by Terry Rooney. The answering member was Helen Goodman.
Pensioner Poverty
Westminster Hall debate on a motion for the adjournment on pensioner poverty. (Relevant documents: Work and Pensions Select Committee fifth report of session 2008-09 - HC 411 and the Government response HC 1029.) Motion made, and Question proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mark Tami.)
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- 2009-10
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Terry Rooney | 502 c143-5WH (Link to this contribution) Although this is the first time that I have served under your chairmanship, Mr. Williams, it does no...
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Helen Goodman | 502 c174-6WH (Link to this contribution) It will happen as soon as is practical. It is obviously a complex matter. I am sure that the hon. Ge...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c165WH (Link to this contribution) I accept that, but the point is that there should be targets. Does the hon. Gentleman accept that, a...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c165-8WH (Link to this contribution) I certainly think we should have some clear policies on how we will reduce poverty. I totally agree ...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c168WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman rightly says that occupational schemes are declining. Is it completely unrealisti...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c168WH (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman might imagine, we are a bit dubious about any state-based solution. However, w...
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Helen Goodman | 502 c168WH (Link to this contribution) Would the hon. Gentleman repeal the legislation introduced by the Government in 2007-08, which enact...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c163WH (Link to this contribution) As a younger person I taught in further education. I was under 30, but I taught on a course called "...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c163-4WH (Link to this contribution) I agree. In my constituency a head teacher who is 74 years of age is still working because the gover...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c164-5WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr. Williams. It is always a pleasure to follow t...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c170WH (Link to this contribution) Although I welcome that, as I am sure we all do, the reality is that the slippage since 1980 has bee...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c170WH (Link to this contribution) I am interested in the Minister's comments about beginning in 2012 and ending within the Parliament....
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Helen Goodman | 502 c170WH (Link to this contribution) We have said that we will do it at some point from 2012 but in any case by the end of the next Parli...
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Helen Goodman | 502 c170-1WH (Link to this contribution) I intended to finish by saying something about the general record of the Government, but as has been...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c168WH (Link to this contribution) I was saying that I did not want the state-based solution proposed by the hon. Member for Luton, Nor...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c168-9WH (Link to this contribution) I was coming to that issue, but I shall deal with it now. We think that anyone who tinkers with the ...
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Helen Goodman | 502 c169-70WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to speak under your chairmanship, Mr. Williams. I apologise on behalf of my hon. Fr...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c168WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman says that he is wedded to the Turner consensus. Does that also mean the retiremen...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c173WH (Link to this contribution) There is a constant emphasis on voluntarism. Many countries in Europe have compulsory contributions ...
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Helen Goodman | 502 c172-3WH (Link to this contribution) I am sure that that is very welcome. The hon. Gentleman has not made it clear whether it will be fin...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c172WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to confirm that we are great supporters of concessionary bus fares...
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Helen Goodman | 502 c171-2WH (Link to this contribution) It is misleading to focus on the state pension alone. I think that my hon. Friend was referring to t...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c171WH (Link to this contribution) I have some figures from 2007; I agree that they have changed slightly since then. The figures, from...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c174WH (Link to this contribution) The Minister told us that the power had been taken in legislation to change council tax benefit to c...
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Helen Goodman | 502 c174WH (Link to this contribution) I am sorry, but I do not know. I shall write to the hon. Gentleman. The majority of housing benefit...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c174WH (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister confirm whether there are still 0845 numbers, or are calls now totally free?
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Helen Goodman | 502 c173-4WH (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend is calling for the Pensions Act 2008, which we have already implemented ...
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Joan Humble | 502 c150WH (Link to this contribution) I refer my hon. Friend to the various Work and Pensions Committee inquiries on housing benefit. The ...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c150WH (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely that the process should be simplified. I think that Britain is the only country in ...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c150-1WH (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way again—she is most generous. She talks about ensuring ...
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Joan Humble | 502 c151-2WH (Link to this contribution) The Committee's reports on simplification, on carers and on tackling pensioner poverty have consider...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c154WH (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for that correction. I may have to look at the statistics more carefully, but...
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John Baron | 502 c154WH (Link to this contribution) I accept what the hon. Member for Blackpool, North and Fleetwood (Mrs. Humble) says, but the figures...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c154-6WH (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman says, we could debate the figures and argue about them, and no doubt the Natio...
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Anne Begg | 502 c156-8WH (Link to this contribution) I apologise for being late to the debate, Mr. Williams. I am happy to be here to add to what has bee...
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John Baron | 502 c153-4WH (Link to this contribution) I accept that the state pension is important, as the hon. Gentleman says, but could the increase ove...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c154WH (Link to this contribution) Indeed. I should have said that the Government have taken some steps to improve pensioners' lot over...
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Joan Humble | 502 c154WH (Link to this contribution) I refer my hon. Friend and the hon. Member for Billericay (Mr. Baron) to page 11 of the report, whic...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c152-3WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr. Williams. I am glad that we have time to deba...
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David Drew | 502 c158-9WH (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to take part in this debate on the excellent treatise from the Work and Pensions Comm...
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David Drew | 502 c145WH (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend add to his point the need for independent advice? One of the real difficulties w...
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Terry Rooney | 502 c145-6WH (Link to this contribution) I take my hon. Friend's point. That is not a road that I particularly want to travel, but there have...
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John Howell | 502 c146-7WH (Link to this contribution) I want to start by saying what a pleasure it was to serve on the Select Committee during this inquir...
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Joan Humble | 502 c148-9WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman raises a key point. My contribution to this debate will concentrate on two areas....
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Lord Dodds of Duncairn | 502 c148WH (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Committee on its excellent and comprehensive report. The hon. Lady mentioned a ra...
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Joan Humble | 502 c147-8WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr. Williams, and to follow my colleague on the C...
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Joan Humble | 502 c149-50WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I will come to the issue of council tax and housing benefit ...
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Nigel Waterson | 502 c149WH (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is absolutely right, not least about people retiring to seaside towns. However, I urge...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c162WH (Link to this contribution) Another major factor is that 20 per cent. of our fellow citizens are functionally illiterate, will u...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c161-2WH (Link to this contribution) We are all from the north. As the hon. Member for Luton, North (Kelvin Hopkins) said, 2.1 million pe...
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David Drew | 502 c159-61WH (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes the point only too clearly. I would argue that we have to get much smarter in e...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c161WH (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr. Williams. I congratulate the Chairman of the ...
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Kelvin Hopkins | 502 c159WH (Link to this contribution) Recent reports suggest that because of fuel price increases, several thousand more pensioners died l...
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Terry Rooney | 502 c163WH (Link to this contribution) This should be an academic debate, because in reality the change to restoring the earnings link is b...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c162-3WH (Link to this contribution) I agree. That is a clear issue, particularly for many older people. The issues that I have mentione...
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Paul Rowen | 502 c163WH (Link to this contribution) I agree. Again, I pay tribute to the Government for reducing the number of years' national insurance...
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- Poverty Economic situation Pensioners Low incomes Pensions Older people Social security benefits Social security State retirement pensions
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