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Strategic Defence and Security Review

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Type

Parliamentary proceeding

Reference

512 c52-134 

Session

2010-12

Department

Ministry of Defence

Chamber / Committee

House of Commons chamber

Proceeding contributions

Steve Brine | 512 c114-6 (Link to this contribution) Congratulations to you, Mr Deputy Speaker, on your elevation. I am grateful to you for allowing me t...

Rebecca Harris | 512 c118-20 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for calling me to speak this evening. I have the great privilege of r...

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Mark Menzies | 512 c78-80 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Member for Plymouth, Moor View (Alison Seabeck) made a light-hearted reference to her secon...

Karen Lumley | 512 c110-2 (Link to this contribution) First, Mr Deputy Speaker, may I congratulate you on your new role? We have known each other for more...

Oliver Colvile | 512 c91-2 (Link to this contribution) May I first congratulate you, Madam Deputy Speaker, on assuming your role as a Deputy Speaker and, s...

Eric Ollerenshaw | 512 c82-4 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for allowing me to make my maiden speech during this important deba...

Sheryll Murray | 512 c107-9 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to catch your eye, Mr Deputy Speaker, and I congratulate all the hon. Members who have...

Jack Lopresti | 512 c98-100 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to contribute to this vital debate. I am delighted ...

Penny Mordaunt | 512 c102-4 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. Having waited for over a month to speak in a debate, it seems a little...

Speaker | 512 c68 (Link to this contribution) Order. Before we continue, may I tell hon. Members that Mr Speaker has imposed an eight-minute limit...

Liam Fox | 512 c52-3 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of the strategic defence and security revie...

Liam Fox | 512 c54-5 (Link to this contribution) I have given way a number of times and I shall give way again. I believe that at the beginning of t...

Baroness Stuart of Edgbaston | 512 c55 (Link to this contribution) I happen to agree with the Secretary of State's stance on nuclear weapons and Trident. Will he say a...

Liam Fox | 512 c55 (Link to this contribution) It is not an obligation, but I certainly think that it adds credibility to our position as a member ...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 512 c55 (Link to this contribution) The Secretary of State began this passage of his speech by talking about returning to first principl...

Liam Fox | 512 c56 (Link to this contribution) I will in a moment. This brings me to the second aspect of the armed forces' primary mission. Defen...

Julian Lewis | 512 c56-7 (Link to this contribution) My right hon. Friend must have read my mind; perhaps that is not difficult to do. I congratulate him...

Liam Fox | 512 c56 (Link to this contribution) I have a degree of sympathy with what the right hon. and learned Gentleman says, but it is worth poi...

Lord Walney | 512 c56 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the Secretary of State about industrial capacity. Before he moves on from the deterrent...

Liam Fox | 512 c56 (Link to this contribution) There are a number of elements in the Trident renewal programme, and we are looking for value for mo...

Julian Lewis | 512 c56 (Link to this contribution) Will my right hon. Friend give way?

Dai Havard | 512 c58 (Link to this contribution) I apologise for interrupting now, because what the Secretary of State has just said is hugely import...

Liam Fox | 512 c58-9 (Link to this contribution) As part of the coalition agreement, we agreed that we would have a value-for-money study to examine ...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c57 (Link to this contribution) I am struggling to understand at the moment how the Secretary of State plans to deal with the issue ...

Liam Fox | 512 c57-8 (Link to this contribution) The value-for-money study on Trident has begun, as has the SDSR, and it will be concluded long befor...

Liam Fox | 512 c57 (Link to this contribution) I would never be so presumptuous as to believe that I could read the complexities and high intellect...

Ian Davidson | 512 c59 (Link to this contribution) These are complex and difficult issues, and if they are to be approached thoroughly, they cannot be ...

Michael Dugher | 512 c59 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Secretary of State and his team to their positions. When in opposition, he was always ...

Liam Fox | 512 c59 (Link to this contribution) The defence review is not about predetermining the size or shape of the armed forces. In fact, the s...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 512 c59 (Link to this contribution) Given the contingencies that my right hon. Friend outlines, is it not important for us to have a str...

Liam Fox | 512 c59 (Link to this contribution) It is very clear that we require civil contingency in the UK, and as part of the wider SDSR, we are ...

Liam Fox | 512 c53 (Link to this contribution) The point of the review is to ensure that we have the proper defence for the United Kingdom. We will...

Chris Bryant | 512 c53 (Link to this contribution) I, too, welcome the right hon. Gentleman to his new post. I could make a similar point about St Atha...

Angus Robertson | 512 c53 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the right hon. Gentleman on his new position. Ministry of Defence statistics show tha...

Liam Fox | 512 c53 (Link to this contribution) I give way to the Labour party election godfather.

Lord Watson of Wyre Forest | 512 c54 (Link to this contribution) I shall be polite to the Secretary of State even after that comment, Mr Deputy Speaker. The Secretar...

Liam Fox | 512 c53 (Link to this contribution) From experience, I would be extremely surprised if that were the end of the hon. Gentleman's submiss...

Liam Fox | 512 c54 (Link to this contribution) A few years ago, we had an extensive debate in the House of Commons on what we thought, as a Parliam...

Liam Fox | 512 c54 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman would expect, that issue will not be part of our review, but it is part of the...

Angus Robertson | 512 c69 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Gentleman is generous to give way. Does he appreciate that it is not simp...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 512 c68-9 (Link to this contribution) The defence review inevitably involves, as we have heard this afternoon, the consideration of abstra...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c67 (Link to this contribution) We carried out a strategic defence review in 1998; we updated it through the new chapter and the Whi...

Bob Stewart | 512 c67 (Link to this contribution) Did the shadow Secretary of State ever consider whether the strategic defence review might have take...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c67-8 (Link to this contribution) I do not think we will get an answer on specific capabilities from the Defence Secretary—we have not...

Ian Davidson | 512 c67 (Link to this contribution) Surely, the Opposition spokesman would agree that we would not have carried out the defence review i...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c66 (Link to this contribution) I missed that programme—sadly, by the sound of it. My hon. Friend raises an important point when he ...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c66-7 (Link to this contribution) I know the hon. Gentleman is very interested in the welfare of the armed forces. All we are trying t...

Julian Brazier | 512 c66 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. Gentleman concede that before he arrived at the MOD, Labour carried out a substa...

Robert Flello | 512 c74 (Link to this contribution) I am thoroughly enjoying listening to the hon. Gentleman's speech, which is well reasoned and consid...

Bernard Jenkin | 512 c74-5 (Link to this contribution) Those forces should certainly be part of the review. It is difficult to imagine how we can hang on t...

Bernard Jenkin | 512 c73-4 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Bolton North East (Mr Crausby), with whom I served on...

David Crausby | 512 c71-3 (Link to this contribution) It is important that we use our helicopters for what we need to use them, and not use them to ferry ...

Robert Flello | 512 c71 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that something that we should look at very carefully is the number of top ...

David Crausby | 512 c71 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful, Mr Deputy Speaker, for the opportunity to speak in this important debate. These are ...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 512 c70-1 (Link to this contribution) It is all a question of flexibility and adaptability; the hon. Lady will find that in the Green Pape...

Madeleine Moon | 512 c70 (Link to this contribution) Would the right hon. and learned Gentleman not agree, though, that we also have international respon...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 512 c69-70 (Link to this contribution) No, I will not, because I will deal with the hon. Gentleman in a moment. The central question is: wh...

Ian Davidson | 512 c69 (Link to this contribution) Will the right hon. and learned Gentleman give way?

Liam Fox | 512 c60-1 (Link to this contribution) I agree 100% with my hon. Friend. Not only is defence diplomacy effective; it is cost-effective. It ...

Julian Brazier | 512 c61 (Link to this contribution) I am most grateful to my right hon. Friend, who has been making the most robust case possible for ke...

Liam Fox | 512 c61 (Link to this contribution) I give way to my hon. Friend, and I apologise for keeping him waiting.

Lord Soames of Fletching | 512 c60 (Link to this contribution) I warmly welcome what the Secretary of State has said about defence diplomacy. Does he agree that, i...

Liam Fox | 512 c60 (Link to this contribution) I am going to make a little progress, as I know that a large number of Members wish to speak in this...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c65 (Link to this contribution) With the greatest of respect to the hon. Gentleman, let me point out that we were dealing with in-ye...

Lord Lancaster of Kimbolton | 512 c65 (Link to this contribution) Last year when the right hon. Gentleman was Secretary of State for Defence, he effectively made poli...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c64-5 (Link to this contribution) I know the hon. Gentleman's views. I have heard him describe, both privately and publicly, his posit...

Andrew Murrison | 512 c63 (Link to this contribution) Now that the right hon. Gentleman is in opposition, does he agree, on quiet reflection, that it is a...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c62-3 (Link to this contribution) I join the Secretary of State in offering my commiserations, thoughts and sympathies on the loss of ...

Liam Fox | 512 c61-2 (Link to this contribution) My mind-reading abilities seem to know no bounds today—no doubt like those of my colleagues. I pay a...

Julian Lewis | 512 c64 (Link to this contribution) I thank the shadow Secretary of State for being so generous in giving way, but he must accept that i...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c64 (Link to this contribution) I am not certain of that. I would not go as far as my hon. Friend. I have, however, seen unfortunate...

Eric Joyce | 512 c64 (Link to this contribution) I find it slightly puzzling to hear my right hon. Friend tell the Secretary of State for Defence to ...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c63 (Link to this contribution) I am glad the hon. Gentleman has said that, as it gives me an opportunity to say that I do not agree...

Dai Havard | 512 c93-5 (Link to this contribution) I bet there will be strong involvement from the Treasury, but is that involvement just about the cos...

Bob Stewart | 512 c95 (Link to this contribution) We have heard three excellent maiden speeches today, and I am delighted to say that I have some conn...

Dai Havard | 512 c93 (Link to this contribution) I could give my answer, but it is not mine that is important, is it? What is important is the questi...

Alison Seabeck | 512 c93 (Link to this contribution) Strong.

Daniel Byles | 512 c95 (Link to this contribution) A very long time ago.

Bob Stewart | 512 c95-6 (Link to this contribution) Thank you. I learned to dive under Royal Navy command at Devonport, despite being a pongo, and I jo...

Julian Lewis | 512 c87-8 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted that I gave way to the hon. Gentleman, who is absolutely right. I could add to the ex...

Bernard Jenkin | 512 c88 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making an excellent speech. To reinforce his point, I add that the small wars that...

Julian Lewis | 512 c88-9 (Link to this contribution) I entirely agree with my hon. Friend that that is absolute madness. I shall not name the senior Army...

Mark Tami | 512 c85 (Link to this contribution) Before my hon. Friend moves on to the nuclear issue, does he agree that many countries have often fo...

Lord Walney | 512 c85-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Very difficult decisions are involved in this review, but we mus...

Julian Lewis | 512 c86-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Barrow and Furness (John Woodcock), and he will...

Mark Tami | 512 c87 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman, and we do not need to go that far back. When I was growing up in th...

Madeleine Moon | 512 c89-91 (Link to this contribution) It is with some trepidation that I follow the hon. Member for New Forest East (Dr Lewis), who, as al...

Alison Seabeck | 512 c93 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making entirely appropriate points, but does he share my concern about the time sc...

Dai Havard | 512 c92-3 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to serve under your weather eye, Madam Deputy Speaker—a new dawn, if not a red dawn...

Angus Robertson | 512 c81-2 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Lady will concede that if we spent our population share on defence, we would have s...

Mark Tami | 512 c82 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Gemma Doyle | 512 c81 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman not accept that if he had his way and there were an independent Scotland, th...

Angus Robertson | 512 c80 (Link to this contribution) It is an honour to follow the hon. Member for Fylde (Mark Menzies), who, in the finest tradition of ...

Thomas Docherty | 512 c80 (Link to this contribution) Does the hon. Gentleman share my surprise at the fact that the Liberal Democrats do not seem to care...

Alison Seabeck | 512 c75-8 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Harwich and North Essex (Mr Jenkin) who, as ever, was...

Lord Walney | 512 c84-5 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my neighbours, the hon. Members for Fylde (Mark Menzies) and for Lancaster and Fleetw...

Angus Robertson | 512 c82 (Link to this contribution) I am running out of time, and I want to conclude by saying this. Unless those issues are considered ...

Nick Harvey | 512 c132-4 (Link to this contribution) That is a yes. Hon. Members need only ask for any information that they need. A variety of Members,...

Nick Harvey | 512 c134 (Link to this contribution) There were many other thoughtful contributions—

Speaker | 512 c134 (Link to this contribution) Order. I apologise for interrupting the Minister of State, but if Members wish to intervene they sho...

Bob Ainsworth | 512 c134 (Link to this contribution) Will the Minister give way?

Chris Evans | 512 c112-4 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Redditch (Karen Lumley) on a wonderful maiden speech. I gave mine...

Gemma Doyle | 512 c116-7 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the hon. Member for Winchester (Mr Brine), who took us on an enchanting tour of his c...

Alison Seabeck | 512 c117 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend agree that there is some confusion on the Government Benches, given that the Bus...

Gemma Doyle | 512 c117-8 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I do agree. I share those concerns, as will my hon. Friend the Member for Barrow and Furness (J...

Daniel Byles | 512 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) It is an honour to speak after so many fantastic maiden speeches, in particular those of my hon. Fri...

Mark Menzies | 512 c109 (Link to this contribution) indicated assent.

Thomas Docherty | 512 c109-10 (Link to this contribution) I note that the hon. Member for Fylde (Mark Menzies) is nodding away; he will know, as will Members ...

Louise Mensch | 512 c123-4 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman had allowed me to develop my speech further, he would have heard me say that t...

Lord Beamish | 512 c124-5 (Link to this contribution) We have had a very good debate, with 27 contributions and nine excellent maiden speeches. The hon. M...

Louise Mensch | 512 c122-3 (Link to this contribution) I will in a second, because I believe that I am about to develop the point that I believe the hon. G...

Lord Beamish | 512 c123 (Link to this contribution) I was looking at the Secretary of State's face when the hon. Lady was saying that she wants to spend...

Gerald Howarth | 512 c125 (Link to this contribution) The RAF.

Lord Beamish | 512 c125-6 (Link to this contribution) I agree with the hon. Gentleman's comment from a sedentary position—he was the lone voice on the Con...

Louise Mensch | 512 c122 (Link to this contribution) I am glad to have the chance to contribute in such a vital debate and to follow so many fine maiden ...

Lord Beamish | 512 c122 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Lady give way?

Daniel Byles | 512 c122 (Link to this contribution) There is a balance to be struck. In fact, before the hon. Lady intervened, my very next sentence was...

Lord Beamish | 512 c128-9 (Link to this contribution) Well, because it is, and we had the White Paper in 2006 that said that. My hon. Friend the Member f...

Lord Beamish | 512 c127 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the hon. Gentleman does, but I am sure that he will have some tough decisions to make over t...

Eric Joyce | 512 c127 (Link to this contribution) I wholeheartedly agree with my hon. Friend. Does he not think that Labour should conduct its own rev...

Lord Beamish | 512 c127 (Link to this contribution) Well, no, I do not, because I have to say that I agree with the Conservative Front-Bench team that w...

Liam Fox | 512 c128 (Link to this contribution) As the hon. Gentleman agrees with the Government's position on this, given his own experience will h...

Lord Beamish | 512 c126 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. and learned Gentleman may not be paying for it personally, but I think that his party...

Bob Russell | 512 c127 (Link to this contribution) May I help the hon. Gentleman further, and ask him to confirm that the last Conservative Government ...

Lord Beamish | 512 c127 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman may be suffering slightly from schizophrenia nowadays as he tries to decide where...

Bob Russell | 512 c127 (Link to this contribution) I know where I am.

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 512 c126 (Link to this contribution) Happily I am not paying for it.

Nick Harvey | 512 c132 (Link to this contribution) Yes. Whatever information right hon. and hon. Members need in order to make representations to the r...

Angus Robertson | 512 c132 (Link to this contribution) Is that a yes?

Nick Harvey | 512 c131-2 (Link to this contribution) The simple answer is that the Government have promised a new approach to mental health services to s...

Angus Robertson | 512 c132 (Link to this contribution) During the previous Parliament, the Labour Government provided statistics on employment and expendit...

Nick Harvey | 512 c131 (Link to this contribution) I hope very much that all Members who have taken part in the defence debate today and think of thems...

Lord Watson of Wyre Forest | 512 c131 (Link to this contribution) I am delighted to see the Minister in his post. Will he clarify the position on the mental health sc...

Nick Harvey | 512 c130 (Link to this contribution) I entirely endorse the hon. Gentleman's comments. It was a particularly distinguished tour of duty, ...

Bob Russell | 512 c131 (Link to this contribution) Can the Minister say whether he and his team, as they battle on behalf of the men and women who serv...

Nick Harvey | 512 c129 (Link to this contribution) This has been a frank and important debate at a crucial time for defence. Many of us will remember T...

Mark Tami | 512 c96-8 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate you, Madam Deputy Speaker, on taking the Chair. I also congratulate those Members who...

Eric Joyce | 512 c106-7 (Link to this contribution) I enjoy giving way to the hon. Gentleman. He made an excellent speech earlier, and I will come to hi...

Julian Lewis | 512 c106 (Link to this contribution) I am fascinated by this point about the number of submarines required. Is the hon. Gentleman aware t...

Speaker | 512 c102 (Link to this contribution) Order. The conventions associated with maiden speeches now apply. I call Penny Mordaunt.

Jeffrey M Donaldson | 512 c100-2 (Link to this contribution) It is a privilege to follow the hon. Member for Filton and Bradley Stoke (Jack Lopresti). I wish him...

Eric Joyce | 512 c104-6 (Link to this contribution) I listened with great interest to the speech of the hon. Member for Portsmouth North (Penny Mordaunt...

Jack Lopresti | 512 c98-100 (Link to this contribution) Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker, for calling me to contribute to this vital debate. I am delighted ...

Jeremy Corbyn | 512 c54 (Link to this contribution) I thank the Secretary of State for giving way and, like others, I congratulate him on his appointmen...

Lord Watson of Wyre Forest | 512 c65-6 (Link to this contribution) I feel the empathy between the two Front Benches on the financial pressures at the MOD, and I, too, ...

Lord Campbell of Pittenweem | 512 c69 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. During earlier exchanges, the thought occurred to me that, if there were any Treasury Minist...

Angus Robertson | 512 c80-1 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is a new Fife Member, and I welcome him to his place. He is very alive to the ris...

Nick Harvey | 512 c134 (Link to this contribution) No, I am in the last minute of the debate. There were many other thoughtful contributions, and I pa...

Thomas Docherty | 512 c109 (Link to this contribution) May I first congratulate all Members on both sides of the House on their superb maiden speeches? We ...

Liam Fox | 512 c59-60 (Link to this contribution) On this occasion it is rather easier to be a mind-reader. I am well aware of the project to which th...

Alison Seabeck | 512 c122 (Link to this contribution) I am listening with interest to the hon. Gentleman, but from the tone of his argument, he seems to b...

David Amess | 512 c129-30 (Link to this contribution) On Thursday, 1st Battalion the Royal Anglian Regiment— the Vikings—held a post-Afghanistan homecomin...

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Contracts Armed forces Defence Defence equipment Employment Health services Helicopters Pay Pensions Nuclear weapons Procurement Military alliances Scotland Reviews Afghanistan Aircraft carriers Trident

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