Debate on bill on Tuesday, 9 November 2010, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Taylor of Holbeach. The answering member was Baroness Royall of Blaisdon.

Public Bodies Bill [HL]

Public Bodies Bill (HL). Lords second reading debate. Motion to commit the Bill to a Select Committee negatived on division (151 to 188). Bill committed to a Committee of the Whole House.

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Type: Parliamentary proceeding
Reference: 722 c63-190
Session: 2010-12
Legislative stage: Second reading
Chamber / Committee: House of Lords chamber
Related items: Public Bodies Bill (HL). Explanatory notes also published (HL Bill 25-EN).
Thursday, 28 October 2010
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Proceeding contributions: Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 722 c98-102 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am grateful to Ministers for having met us on several occasions to listen to our concern...; Lord Mayhew of Twysden | 722 c94-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow my friend and fellow Middle Templar. Perhaps I may begin ...; Baroness Warwick of Undercliffe | 722 c96-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I must declare an interest as chair of the Human Tissue Authority, one of the bodies affec...; Lord Borrie | 722 c94 (Link to this contribution) I do not know the subject to which the noble Lord is referring, but if what he says is the case, tha...; Lord Borrie | 722 c92-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, last Thursday, all sides of this House very much welcomed the Government’s statement that ...; Lord St John of Fawsley | 722 c93 (Link to this contribution) I agree with much of what the noble Lord, Lord Borrie, said. I think that these bodies should be exa...; Lord Blackwell | 722 c106-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, before speaking, I should draw attention to my interests as a non-executive board member o...; Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 722 c108-10 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, reticent as I am to depart from the conclusions of the Constitution Select Committee of yo...; Baroness Stern | 722 c120-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I, too, share the concerns expressed around your Lordships’ House about the principles of ...; Lord Knight of Weymouth | 722 c122-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like my noble friend Lady Royall, I think that this is a bad Bill. We could describe it as...; Lord Marlesford | 722 c124-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this Bill is clearly flawed. It may even be deeply flawed. However, we have heard much abo...; Lord Clark of Windermere | 722 c126-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Marlesford, has quite rightly reminded us that the proposal to cull q...; Lord Harries of Pentregarth | 722 c110-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I believe that there is widespread support in this House for the Government’s desire to cu...; Lord Warner | 722 c112-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as the architect and first chairman of the Youth Justice Board, whic...; Lord Howe of Aberavon | 722 c114-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is curious for me to reflect on one body, listed in Schedule 5, which I played some par...; Lord Beecham | 722 c117-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it seems to me that the Government are approaching the Bill in the spirit of Alice in Wond...; Baroness Scott of Needham Market | 722 c128-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I should start in the spirit of the confessional, because I am a reformed quangocr...; Lord Richard | 722 c68 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down, I wonder whether I could ask him a question. He has given us his vi...; Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c68 (Link to this contribution) We will have plenty of time to discuss the question which the noble Lord has asked. It is reasonable...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 722 c72 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord makes a very valid point. I do not know whether such an issue would come wi...; Lord Lester of Herne Hill | 722 c73 (Link to this contribution) The noble Baroness was talking about the Select Committee and the kinds of matters that it would dea...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 722 c68-72 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his detailed exposition of the Bill and for the constructive disc...; Lord Martin of Springburn | 722 c72 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps the noble Baroness will allow me to intervene to voice a big concern that I have about quang...; Lord Woolf | 722 c75-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I regard this Bill as a matter of grave concern to the judiciary. Before the Constitutiona...; Lord Deben | 722 c77-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may, on the second occasion on which I have addressed your Lordships’ House, sta...; Baroness Royall of Blaisdon | 722 c73 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think that it should be a fairly narrow committee and that it should meet regularly. I d...; Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 722 c73-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this Bill has immense importance and the House, in its committee structure, has not yet co...; Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town | 722 c79 (Link to this contribution) Given his attack on Dame Deirdre Hutton, does the noble Lord accept that her advice when she chaired...; Lord Deben | 722 c79-80 (Link to this contribution) I rather purposefully did not mention the name of the person concerned as I did not want to make it ...; Baroness Scotland of Asthal | 722 c80-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Bill is of great constitutional significance. I listened with great care to what was s...; Baroness Finlay of Llandaff | 722 c81-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in his opening remarks, the Minister spoke about transparency of process, but I fear that ...; Lord Liddle | 722 c82-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I support the call for more time for deliberation from the noble Lord, Lord Maclennan of R...; Lord Freeman | 722 c84-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will not pursue the argument of the noble Lord, Lord Liddle, about assistance to industr...; Baroness Andrews | 722 c85-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as chair of English Heritage and as a vice-chairman of the national ...; Baroness Meacher | 722 c88-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I shall make one point and refer to two examples of bodies facing questionable abolition. ...; Baroness Blackstone | 722 c90-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I will make general and specific comments on this bad Bill. The sweeping powers contained ...; Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c67-8 (Link to this contribution) The Bill has proceeded on consensus. I do not imagine that it will deviate from that course in the f...; Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 722 c66 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, will the Minister clarify the position in relation to United Kingdom bodies like the Fores...; Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c63-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I beg to move that this Bill be read a second time. This is an important Bill, as the Spe...; Lord Foulkes of Cumnock | 722 c66-7 (Link to this contribution) It is my understanding that the Scottish Government are of a different view from the United Kingdom ...; Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c66 (Link to this contribution) There has been a dialogue with the devolved authorities throughout the course of the Bill. This is a...; Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c63 (Link to this contribution) Moved By That the Bill be read a second time.; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 722 c179-83 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been a long, impressive and important debate. It is important because the Bill will...; Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c183-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a good debate on a very serious subject in which people have expressed thems...; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 722 c186-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have had an extensive debate. I know that the House will now want to come to a speedy c...; Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 722 c187 (Link to this contribution) Tabled by At end to insert ““; and that it be an instruction to the Committee that it should rep...; Lord Taylor of Holbeach | 722 c186 (Link to this contribution) Moved by That the Bill be committed to a Committee of the Whole House. Amendment to the Motion; Lord Hunt of Kings Heath | 722 c186 (Link to this contribution) Moved by Leave out ““Committee of the Whole House”” and insert ““Select Committee””.; Lord Maclennan of Rogart | 722 c187-90 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the light of the assurance that has been given by the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings He...; Lord Wills | 722 c167-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as noble Lord after noble Lord has demonstrated, this is not a good Bill. It exemplifies t...; Baroness Deech | 722 c170-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been said that there are good quangos and bad quangos. It is time for some root-and...; Lord Whitty | 722 c172 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I find this an extraordinary attack on the concept of consumerism or consumer representati...; Baroness Deech | 722 c172 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, there is no doubt that the voice of the consumer needs to be heard, but much turns on how ...; Lord Graham of Edmonton | 722 c172-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a pleasure to have the opportunity to speak in this debate and especially to have th...; Lord Graham of Edmonton | 722 c173-4 (Link to this contribution) I dug myself into that one. I very much hope that the Minister has some latitude—possibly not to say...; Lord Selsdon | 722 c174-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, for more than three or four decades I have had the pleasure of speaking either before or a...; Baroness Crawley | 722 c176-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a delight to follow the noble Lord, Lord Selsdon, who makes an excellent tea compani...; Viscount Eccles | 722 c166-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate has been both extremely interesting and rather paradoxical. There is general a...; Lord Faulkner of Worcester | 722 c164-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given the lateness of the hour, I shall say less than I would have done had my name appear...; Baroness Smith of Basildon | 722 c161-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a long and interesting debate and I am sure that the Minister, who has liste...; Lord Pilkington of Oxenford | 722 c163-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wish to raise problems relating to the charity commissioners. I am encouraged by the fac...; Lord Phillips of Sudbury | 722 c160 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. He made a powerful point about Citizens Advice and t...; Lord Whitty | 722 c160-1 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is an added difficulty. I think Citizens Advice was as surprised by the decision as w...; Lord Greaves | 722 c156-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the 10 years that I have been a Member of this House I have been used to seeing Bills, ...; Lord Whitty | 722 c158-60 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am beginning to feel very sorry for the Minister. When I came back to the Chamber I thou...; Lord Norton of Louth | 722 c152-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like others, I have no problem with the declared ends of this Bill, but I have a fundament...; Baroness Thornton | 722 c154-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the Minister will not by now be surprised or unaware that many noble Lords and, indeed, ma...; Baroness Warnock | 722 c149-50 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at this time of the evening brevity is the only virtue. I will make three points—two gener...; Lord Soley | 722 c148-9 (Link to this contribution) I am a member of the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee, which will meet tomorrow to c...; Lord Stevenson of Balmacara | 722 c150-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given the tenor and content of many of the excellent speeches that we have heard in the de...; Lord Elystan-Morgan | 722 c139-41 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I appreciate that I am the 34th speaker and that much of what I might have said in relatio...; Lord Judd | 722 c141-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, if there were no other reason for the Government to think again, the observations of the S...; Lord Morris of Aberavon | 722 c144-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, Parliament has always been rightly jealous of granting Henry VIII’s powers to Ministers an...; Lord Roberts of Conwy | 722 c146-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I found myself on the horns of a dilemma as I read the Bill, and that was before I read th...; Baroness Henig | 722 c131-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I declare an interest as chair of the Security Industry Authority and president of the Ass...; Lord Crickhowell | 722 c134-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Baroness has given us a preview of the speech that she will no doubt make again ...; Baroness Pitkeathley | 722 c137-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I make it clear that, although I have been a member of and have chaired a considerable num...; Lord Kennedy of Southwark | 722 c102-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Taylor of Holbeach, for the introduction of this Bill. I also...; Baroness Whitaker | 722 c104-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I was the departmental minder—otherwise known as ministerial adviser—for two quangos, the ...; Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope | 722 c177-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a very interesting debate and I have listened to most of it. I think that th...
Subjects: Closures Devolution Civil servants Forestry Powers Workplace pensions Public bodies Mergers Ministers Redundancy Non-departmental public bodies Reviews Henry VIII clauses
Legislation: Public Bodies Bill (HL) 2010-12
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Public Bodies Bill [HL]

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