Debate on bill on Wednesday, 25 January 2012, in the House of Commons, led by Philip Davies. The answering member was Robert Neill.
London Local Authorities Bill [Lords]
London Local Authorities Bill (HL) 2007-08. Report stage further consideration. Clause 5 amendments debated. Closure motion agreed on division (276 to 10). Amendments negatived on division (16 to 159). Debate interrupted. Bill to be further considered on Tuesday 31 January.
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London Local Authorities Bill (HL). Petition deposited by Sharpe Pritchard (Vote).
Tuesday, 27 November 2007
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House of Lords
- Proceeding contributions
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Anne Main | 539 c333 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend, or other hon. Members in the Chamber, suggest any offence that would not be cov...
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Philip Davies | 539 c333 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. This part of the Bill—indeed, the whole Bill, although I will not...
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Anne Main | 539 c332 (Link to this contribution) The authorities in St Albans have always had the problem of not knowing exactly where the people who...
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Philip Davies | 539 c332-3 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. I am sure she agrees that existing legislation is sufficient to ...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c333 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is extremely unfair to local authorities in suggesting that the clause exists for...
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Speaker | 539 c334 (Link to this contribution) Order. I remind the House that interventions must be brief.
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Mike Freer | 539 c331 (Link to this contribution) To help my hon. Friend the Member for St Albans (Mrs Main), the current regulations do not apply to ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c332 (Link to this contribution) I am sure we are all grateful for that clarification. The point I think my hon. Friend the Member fo...
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Anne Main | 539 c331 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend believe that litter such as dropped cigarettes and chewing gum is covered by exi...
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Philip Davies | 539 c331 (Link to this contribution) That is correct. My hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch touched on that in his speech—he omitted...
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Anne Main | 539 c335 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a powerful argument. I am listening with increasing concern because this appear...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c335 (Link to this contribution) Might the provision be not only cost-cutting, but cost-increasing? Some of the buildings that will b...
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Philip Davies | 539 c335-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point. Given that local authorities are playing not with their own money...
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James Gray | 539 c336 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend was advancing a persuasive argument until his last point. That this duplicates existi...
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Philip Davies | 539 c334 (Link to this contribution) I do not accept what the hon. Gentleman said. He may think that all of this is for the benefit of co...
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James Gray | 539 c334 (Link to this contribution) I have been listening carefully to my hon. Friend. This is the first occasion on which I have debate...
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Philip Davies | 539 c334 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and gets neatly to the nub of the issue in the clause and the Bi...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c334 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is allowing the perfect to become the enemy of the good. If local authorities in ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c334-5 (Link to this contribution) That is very interesting. The thrust of the Bill and of the clause is to address problems unique to ...
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Bob Blackman | 539 c338 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a powerful speech about who is responsible for litter and its collection. T...
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Philip Davies | 539 c337-8 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. She introduces a new aspect, because if we follow this through to the logic...
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Anne Main | 539 c338 (Link to this contribution) I have to ““fess up”” and declare an interest: my husband worked for Mars for a long time, which is ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c337 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that update. They are obviously more easily impressed than I am with what my hon. ...
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Anne Main | 539 c337 (Link to this contribution) Is not the problem the fact that this would effectively carve up the streets in front of public buil...
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Philip Davies | 539 c337 (Link to this contribution) I accept that. The point is that surely the problem would be worse. If individuals felt that they wo...
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Mike Freer | 539 c337 (Link to this contribution) My colleagues seem to be rather obsessed with the views of the Society of London Theatre and the The...
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James Gray | 539 c337 (Link to this contribution) On reflection, I will disagree with myself and redisagree with the disagreement that I made against ...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c340 (Link to this contribution) There is clearly a problem in how that relates to public houses, but as I remember from my time as c...
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Philip Davies | 539 c340 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a good point, and he knows far more about those matters than I do, so I certain...
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Anne Main | 539 c340 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right, and many local authorities, my own included, are working on the ...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c339 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether that establishes a general principle that it is much better to get a free market so...
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Philip Davies | 539 c339-40 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree with my hon. Friend, and I am sure that my hon. Friend the Member for Wirral West...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c340 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether it is not rather an unsatisfactory principle that something that was perfectly lega...
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Philip Davies | 539 c339 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. That sounds like a good initiative. In fact, I think that there are...
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Anne Main | 539 c342 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely interested to hear the Toowoomba and Braintree examples. Does my hon. Friend know whe...
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Philip Davies | 539 c342 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely. That is very much the case. The point of these examples, and the lesson that we should...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c342 (Link to this contribution) I wonder whether my hon. Friend would describe that initiative as ““nudge”” theory. That means getti...
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Philip Davies | 539 c340-2 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree. The ENCAMS report went on to discuss cleaning and stated:"““Efficient, cost eff...
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Anne Main | 539 c344 (Link to this contribution) I am more than happy to enlighten my hon. Friend. We received numerous submissions of evidence from ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c343 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend. Like my hon. Friend the Member for Bury North, she is clearly far m...
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Anne Main | 539 c343 (Link to this contribution) Flushed with success, one might say. I sat on the Select Committee on Communities and Local Governme...
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Philip Davies | 539 c342-3 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend, who makes a good suggestion, and I am not aware of any local authoritie...
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Mike Freer | 539 c344 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may help my hon. Friend.
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Philip Davies | 539 c344 (Link to this contribution) That is very helpful. I do not know whether the local authorities concerned or the sponsor of the Bi...
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Philip Davies | 539 c331 (Link to this contribution) I begin by apologising on his behalf for the absence of my hon. Friend the Member for Christchurch (...
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Speaker | 539 c331 (Link to this contribution) With this, it will be convenient to consider amendments 16 to 20, 3 and 4.
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Philip Davies | 539 c331 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 15, which is, leave out clause 5.
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Philip Davies | 539 c368 (Link to this contribution) Just to clarify that I have read the report, I have a copy of it here. Will my hon. Friend make it c...
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Anne Main | 539 c368 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend for reminding me of that. In fact, one might ask why we did a report on publi...
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Mike Freer | 539 c368 (Link to this contribution) claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36).
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Speaker | 539 c369 (Link to this contribution) I think I can be tempted to put the Question because we have been debating this group of amendments ...
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Anne Main | 539 c367 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is trying to lead me down corridors. He has not come forward with a single type o...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c367 (Link to this contribution) The truth is that local authorities can already apply this provision to retail and commercial proper...
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Anne Main | 539 c367-8 (Link to this contribution) I am. My hon. Friend the Member for Shipley was obviously well versed in the report. If the hon. Me...
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Philip Davies | 539 c367 (Link to this contribution) I hope that my hon. Friend is talking about the hon. Member for Derby North (Chris Williamson).
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Anne Main | 539 c367 (Link to this contribution) I shall not give way; I wish to expand my point. My point is that small businesses that see a pile ...
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Anne Main | 539 c373 (Link to this contribution) Does my hon. Friend have any suggestions as to how this would be promoted, because my constituents, ...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c373 (Link to this contribution) That is localism.
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c373 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely right. I thought it might not be a bad idea if they had the relevant council's coat of ar...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c373 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to my hon. Friend for raising that point, because I specify in amendment 60,...
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Philip Davies | 539 c373 (Link to this contribution) I agree with my hon. Friend wholeheartedly. During a previous discussion on this Bill, my hon. Frien...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c373 (Link to this contribution) As you know, Mr Deputy Speaker, I have tabled a number of amendments and have also put my name to a ...
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Speaker | 539 c372 (Link to this contribution) With this it will be convenient to take amendments 23, 24, 41, 25 to 28, 42, P1, 29, 30, 43 to 45, 3...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c372 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move amendment 22, to leave out clause 9.
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Speaker | 539 c371 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the delay in the Aye Lobby. The House divided: Ayes 16, N...
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Speaker | 539 c369 (Link to this contribution) I ask the Serjeant at Arms to investigate the No Lobby because there seems to be a blockage. The Ho...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) I completely agree.
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Mike Gapes | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) I was watching the proceedings from my office, and I could not believe that any Members of Parliamen...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) I am very sympathetic to what my hon. Friend says, and I add that many of my amendments take chunks ...
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Mike Gapes | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) Has the hon. Gentleman or any of his colleagues who oppose this legislation had discussions with the...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) Derby—I am so sorry. Those visitors would not be caught out by all sorts of strange people. [Interru...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful for that intervention. The Mayor of London is a man whom I admire enormously and ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) I certainly do not know what they are, but perhaps my hon. Friend ought to listen to the hon. Member...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c374 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps my hon. Friend does.
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Speaker | 539 c375 (Link to this contribution) Well, I think if we are going to have a prohibition on judgmentalism, we are setting ourselves rathe...
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Anne Main | 539 c375 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Speaker. I seek your guidance. Is it appropriate parliamentary language for ...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c375 (Link to this contribution) That may not be what is intended, but it is, unfortunately, what is said and it is what is described...
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Mike Freer | 539 c375 (Link to this contribution) I hate to correct my hon. Friend because I so enjoy his perorations in the Chamber but he is incorre...
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Speaker | 539 c376 (Link to this contribution) I note the hon. Gentleman's value judgment, and indeed his sense of humour. If there are no further ...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c376 (Link to this contribution) On a point of order, Mr Speaker. I think many hon. Members would consider being called neanderthals ...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c374-5 (Link to this contribution) Now we see the true face of socialist authoritarianism coming into the House. Those people do not bo...
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James Gray | 539 c365 (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to my hon. Friend, as I did to my hon. Friend the Member for Shipley (Phili...
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Anne Main | 539 c365-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valuable point, and I never thought that I would be speaking up to defend McD...
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James Gray | 539 c366 (Link to this contribution) I used a slightly bad example in my previous intervention by citing a big business and talking about...
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Anne Main | 539 c366 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes a valuable point, but I—and others in the debate have made this point—am not aw...
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Philip Davies | 539 c366 (Link to this contribution) Do we not return to the point that, if this is an issue, it is an issue throughout the country? On t...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c366 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady contradicts her own argument, because she says that businesses would not want to serve...
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Anne Main | 539 c366 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend makes the point that this is private business and it nominates only London, but the p...
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Philip Davies | 539 c366-7 (Link to this contribution) On my hon. Friend's exchange with our hon. Friend the Member for North Wiltshire (Mr Gray), will she...
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Anne Main | 539 c366 (Link to this contribution) My objection to the clause relates, in particular, to smaller premises. We have talked a great deal ...
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Anne Main | 539 c367 (Link to this contribution) I thank my hon. Friend, because this debate has been going for some time, and he did make that point...
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Robert Neill | 539 c363 (Link to this contribution) May I briefly pull together the chains of this debate and address the topics that have been raised? ...
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Speaker | 539 c363 (Link to this contribution) I now have to announce the result of the deferred Division on the motion relating to the mayoral ref...
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James Gray | 539 c362 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making a thoughtful speech. On the question of public lavatories—I find it dif...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c362 (Link to this contribution) I have given way quite a lot already, so if the hon. Lady will bear with me, I will try to make a li...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c361 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for that clarification. I may have misheard, but I thought the hon. Gentleman told his...
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Robert Neill | 539 c364 (Link to this contribution) The guidance was produced by the previous Government. It is not the policy of this Government to see...
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Philip Davies | 539 c363 (Link to this contribution) I accept that my hon. Friend wants to remain neutral on this because it is private business, but sur...
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Greg Knight | 539 c360 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman has said three times that some local authorities are short of resources, so he is...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c360 (Link to this contribution) I must give way to a former Member for Derby North.
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James Gray | 539 c360 (Link to this contribution) What about the parliamentary estate?
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Chris Williamson | 539 c360 (Link to this contribution) Her Majesty's Opposition are genuine localists. We trust local government and those who are elected ...
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Mike Freer | 539 c360 (Link to this contribution) I understand that the Palace of Westminster, as a royal palace, would be exempt, but that because Wh...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c360 (Link to this contribution) If I may, I will pass on that question. Perhaps the sponsor of the Bill will clarify the situation.
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Philip Davies | 539 c361 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is disparaging my comments, but has he read the Select Committee report to which ...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c360-1 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for providing that clarification in response to his hon. Friend'...
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Philip Davies | 539 c361 (Link to this contribution) We cannot allow that to stand. The hon. Gentleman clearly was not listening. I said that I was not a...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c361 (Link to this contribution) To be fair, the hon. Gentleman himself said that he had not read the report. Indeed, he said that un...
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Anne Main | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) It may be a big issue in some of our constituencies, when our constituents visit London, and we are ...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c358-9 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for that guidance, Mr Deputy Speaker. I was aiming to get to the substance of the Bill, bu...
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Speaker | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) Order. I think I have heard enough from both sides. We ought to be discussing the amendments rather ...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) I want to probe the shadow Minister further on the issue of MPs who do not represent London not bein...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Lady studies the record, she will see that Members from London on both sides of the Cham...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c360 (Link to this contribution) With the greatest respect, the hon. Lady is not living in the real world. If only the avenues that s...
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Anne Main | 539 c359 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman sums up my worries about the measure. Legislation already exists under which a pe...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c359 (Link to this contribution) I accept that other provisions are available, but they do not necessarily go far enough, and they le...
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James Gray | 539 c359 (Link to this contribution) I thank the hon. Member for Derby North (Chris Williamson), who is being very generous and is advanc...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c356 (Link to this contribution) I can give an assurance that I will not be speaking for nearly two hours on this subject; I am sure ...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c356 (Link to this contribution) Where are the MPs?
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Chris Williamson | 539 c356 (Link to this contribution) I shall come on to that point, but let us be clear that every London borough, of every political per...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c356 (Link to this contribution) If the hon. Gentleman thinks these provisions are so great, why does he not come to the House and pr...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c356-7 (Link to this contribution) Here we go again with another red herring from a Member who does not represent a London constituency...
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Speaker | 539 c357 (Link to this contribution) Order. We cannot have five Members on their feet trying to intervene at once.
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Chris Williamson | 539 c357 (Link to this contribution) I shall give way to the hon. Member for North Wiltshire (Mr Gray).
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Philip Davies | 539 c355 (Link to this contribution) Absolutely; I totally agree with my hon. Friend. The proposals would also affect certain hard-press...
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Anne Main | 539 c355 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a very powerful point. There is also the possibility, as my hon. Friend the...
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Philip Davies | 539 c355-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. I want to bring my remarks to a close, because I am sure that other people...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) I can see that the hon. Lady is desperate to intervene.
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Philip Davies | 539 c357 (Link to this contribution) That is what we are doing at the moment: scrutinising the legislation. The hon. Gentleman seems to b...
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Philip Davies | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) It is a big issue in Durham.
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Anne Main | 539 c357 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman will have to excuse me, but I find it vaguely insulting to hear that my constitue...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c357 (Link to this contribution) I hope that the hon. Lady will forgive me, but I did not say she was not concerned about London. I m...
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James Gray | 539 c357 (Link to this contribution) I am listening carefully to the hon. Gentleman, who poses an interesting constitutional conundrum: t...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c357 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes a perfectly valid constitutional point, but I thought that his party was in...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c353 (Link to this contribution) In a previous incarnation, I was a licensing chairman. We were keen as a local authority to encourag...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c352 (Link to this contribution) It is not just businesses that pay rates and expect services; people pay their council tax to their ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c352 (Link to this contribution) I suspect my hon. Friend is right. It is no good local authorities going to the Government or the co...
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Anne Main | 539 c352 (Link to this contribution) Will my hon. Friend give way?
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Philip Davies | 539 c352-3 (Link to this contribution) I really ought to press on and get to the other amendments. I do apologise to my hon. Friend. I wil...
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Bob Blackman | 539 c352 (Link to this contribution) I am almost tempted to say that people would choose to live in such a wonderful place as opposed to ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c352 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to go on further about public toilets, suffice it to say that I hope my comments have ...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c352 (Link to this contribution) To go back to an amendment to which my hon. Friend spoke earlier, that could be a matter of free ent...
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Philip Davies | 539 c352 (Link to this contribution) That is right. My hon. Friend proposes a good solution, but however they are paid for, local busines...
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Philip Davies | 539 c351-2 (Link to this contribution) If you will allow me, Mr Deputy Speaker, I shall conclude on the issue of toilets by saying simply t...
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David Nuttall | 539 c355 (Link to this contribution) The answer lies in section 93 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990, which relates to clause 5. I...
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Philip Davies | 539 c354-5 (Link to this contribution) I think that my hon. Friend the Member for Brigg and Goole (Andrew Percy) addressed that point. His ...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c355 (Link to this contribution) Powers already exist to deal with any problems with street furniture. This can be done through the p...
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Philip Davies | 539 c354 (Link to this contribution) I commend my hon. Friend for being so eagle-eyed; I agree with him wholeheartedly on that point. On...
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James Gray | 539 c354 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is speaking with great passion from his own libertarian standpoint, but I have to adm...
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Philip Davies | 539 c354 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend is right; indeed, I recall attempts, whether successful or not, to try...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c354 (Link to this contribution) I think that it is much worse than that; this is a fundamental attack on the rights of property. The...
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Philip Davies | 539 c353 (Link to this contribution) I am sure that my hon. Friend is right. I am sure that there are lots of benefits for local authorit...
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Anne Main | 539 c353-4 (Link to this contribution) In another incarnation, I was on the Select Committee on Communities and Local Government when it pu...
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Andrew Percy | 539 c347-8 (Link to this contribution) This power is not about localism unless it is provided to all local authorities in England. If we do...
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Philip Davies | 539 c348 (Link to this contribution) If my hon. Friend did try to introduce such a Bill, I would probably be standing here speaking again...
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Anne Main | 539 c348 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is being extremely generous in giving way. One of the important points that came out...
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Philip Davies | 539 c346 (Link to this contribution) We absolutely do not know that, and neither does the right hon. Gentleman. I will come to that later...
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Philip Davies | 539 c346 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend, who displays her expertise once again. As regards not knowing how m...
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Anne Main | 539 c346 (Link to this contribution) The question of how much people are prepared to pay to use a public toilet facility was also covered...
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Philip Davies | 539 c347 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. If the problems that the Bill seeks to address exist, they canno...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c346 (Link to this contribution) If the Act allowed for turnstiles that everybody could get through, why should that not apply to the...
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Philip Davies | 539 c347 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to get sidetracked by charges in toilets, Madam Deputy Speaker, because I am sure that...
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Bob Blackman | 539 c347 (Link to this contribution) Does not that fly in the face of my hon. Friend's argument given that we, as a Government, are pursu...
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Philip Davies | 539 c350-1 (Link to this contribution) Despite the fact that my hon. Friend also probably goes to far better quality restaurants than I do,...
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Speaker | 539 c351 (Link to this contribution) Order. The hon. Gentleman is obviously well briefed—he has certainly flushed out a lot of the subjec...
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Anne Main | 539 c349-50 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend alluded to tourism. I do not know whether he is aware of the comments of Peter Hampso...
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Philip Davies | 539 c349 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. Clearly, he has been diligent, as always, in reading that report. He may we...
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David Nuttall | 539 c349 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is making a powerful case, and I am sorry that I missed the opening part of it due to...
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Philip Davies | 539 c348-9 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right, and it has been a delight to have her in the debate this afternoon. She has...
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Anne Main | 539 c350 (Link to this contribution) Not only restaurants pride themselves on their toilets. I was privileged to visit the Isle of Mull a...
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Philip Davies | 539 c350 (Link to this contribution) I suspect that my hon. Friend visits far better quality restaurants than me. If I had his means, I a...
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Jacob Rees-Mogg | 539 c350 (Link to this contribution) I must disagree with my hon. Friend —for the first time in his excellent speech—on the way he judges...
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Philip Davies | 539 c350 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is right. We all know how important toilet facilities are. When we go to a restaurant...
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Philip Davies | 539 c345-6 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. Again, I bow to her superior knowledge from her time on the Sele...
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Tom Brake | 539 c346 (Link to this contribution) Because the disability discrimination laws would apply, the problems of access that the hon. Gentlem...
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Philip Davies | 539 c345 (Link to this contribution) That may well be true. Perhaps local authorities ought to sharpen up their act before they try to pa...
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Anne Main | 539 c345 (Link to this contribution) Having served on the Communities and Local Government Committee, I know that the report presents onl...
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Mark Tami | 539 c345 (Link to this contribution) Another important point, besides whether there are turnstiles, is that far too often toilets are clo...
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Philip Davies | 539 c345 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to my hon. Friend for that clarification, but he is not taking into account the eviden...
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Mike Freer | 539 c345 (Link to this contribution) I understand my hon. Friend's concern. The point is that since 1963, we have had the Disability Disc...
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Philip Davies | 539 c345 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my hon. Friend for that clarification. What he says is all well and good, but ...
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Mike Freer | 539 c344 (Link to this contribution) The Bill is not in direct contravention of that recommendation. ““Turnstile”” is a legalistic term. ...
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Philip Davies | 539 c338 (Link to this contribution) It was important for my hon. Friend to make that point, because otherwise she might have been in tro...
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Philip Davies | 539 c337 (Link to this contribution) I will agree with my hon. Friend on the first half of his point, but disagree with him on the second...
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Philip Davies | 539 c340 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend is absolutely right. This is a tyranny over people who were once able to enjoy a part...
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Philip Davies | 539 c338 (Link to this contribution) I do not want to get sidetracked—as I am sure you do not, Madam Deputy Speaker—but the whole thrust ...
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Speaker | 539 c376 (Link to this contribution) I choose randomly for a point of order. Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg.
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Anne Main | 539 c361 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way on that point?
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Anne Main | 539 c364-5 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Shipley (Philip Davies) on his forensic evaluation of t...
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Philip Davies | 539 c355 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree. Plenty of legislation is available to local authorities if they feel so strongly...
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Philip Davies | 539 c335 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend might want to advance that argument, but I am not entirely clear whether the Bill is ...
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Esther McVey | 539 c338 (Link to this contribution) I am listening to the debate with great interest. The Liverpool BID—the city centre business improve...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c362-3 (Link to this contribution) I can give the hon. Gentleman the benefit of anecdotal evidence that I have gleaned in speaking to y...
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Chris Williamson | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) That is a fair comment, but in our system of local government, people in London elect the councils t...
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Anne Main | 539 c358 (Link to this contribution) Before the hon. Gentleman moves away from the fact that not a single London MP has spoken against th...
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