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Debate on Thursday, 9 February 2012, in the House of Commons, led by Lord Hague of Richmond. The answering member was Douglas Alexander.

Somalia

Debate on a motion that this House has considered the matter of how to build a stable and peaceful Somalia.

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Parliamentary proceeding
Reference
540 c509-77 
Session
2010-12
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
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Proceeding contributions
Mark Lazarowicz | 540 c553-5 (Link to this contribution) I am not prepared with a suitable Shakespearean quote to follow the hon. Member for Gainsborough (Mr...
Speaker | 540 c555 (Link to this contribution) I am extremely grateful to you for taking note of the time constraints, Mr Lazarowicz.
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Sarah Newton | 540 c555 (Link to this contribution) We live in a time when one can feel the tectonic plates of geopolitics move. In and out of this Cham...
Jeremy Corbyn | 540 c555 (Link to this contribution) I am interested in what the hon. Lady is saying about the Somali community in Britain. She is correc...
Sarah Newton | 540 c555-7 (Link to this contribution) I do not believe that my point reflected negatively on the vast majority of Somalis living in our co...
Seema Malhotra | 540 c557-8 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this important debate, and I add my congratulations to...
Speaker | 540 c557 (Link to this contribution) Thank you for your time restraint.
Seema Malhotra | 540 c558 (Link to this contribution) I totally support the hon. Gentleman's comment.
Seema Malhotra | 540 c558-9 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady will probably be aware of my commitment to the engagement of women in all aspects of p...
Jane Ellison | 540 c558 (Link to this contribution) When those mechanisms are established, can we make it clear that we want to engage both men and wome...
Oliver Colvile | 540 c560 (Link to this contribution) In the main, I agree with my hon. Friend, although it is important, if we are to do that kind of thi...
Jeremy Corbyn | 540 c560-3 (Link to this contribution) I am pleased that we are having this debate on Somalia. It is the first debate on this subject for a...
Oliver Colvile | 540 c559-60 (Link to this contribution) I thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for giving me an opportunity to participate in the debate. I am not...
Bob Stewart | 540 c560 (Link to this contribution) I was spurred into action by my hon. Friend's comments about Royal Marines going ashore. As part of ...
Eric Joyce | 540 c567 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is making an excellent speech and is rightly praising the role of the Royal Navy. Does...
Jane Ellison | 540 c563-5 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the opportunity to speak in this important debate, and I am pleased to follow the hon. Mem...
Laura Sandys | 540 c569-70 (Link to this contribution) It is a great honour to follow my hon. Friend the Member for Beckenham (Bob Stewart). One thing that...
Bob Stewart | 540 c567-9 (Link to this contribution) In my lifetime, Somalia has probably been the biggest and most tragic basket case in the world. It h...
Penny Mordaunt | 540 c567 (Link to this contribution) I agree absolutely with the hon. Gentleman. The former head of the Royal Marines said on this subjec...
Ian Lucas | 540 c570-3 (Link to this contribution) I thank all those who have contributed to the debate, in which we have all learned something, rangin...
Lord Bellingham | 540 c573-4 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the hon. Member for Wrexham (Ian Lucas) for his remarks. I may be a dogged opening ...
Edward Leigh | 540 c574 (Link to this contribution) My hon. Friend the Member for Cheltenham (Martin Horwood) asked me what the source was for the stati...
Alun Michael | 540 c575 (Link to this contribution) This may seem like a minor point, but the Minister referred to pirates returning to Somaliland. By a...
Lord Bellingham | 540 c574-5 (Link to this contribution) I point out that we have never given aid directly to the TFG. Of course, a lot of aid has gone into ...
Lord Bellingham | 540 c575-7 (Link to this contribution) That is a very good point. Some of the pirates may well originate from tribes in Somaliland, but oth...
Alun Michael | 540 c544 (Link to this contribution) I am happy to endorse what the hon. Gentleman is saying. Does he agree, however, that it may well be...
Martin Horwood | 540 c545 (Link to this contribution) That is a fair point—I think that it has to be an iterative process—but the point I am making to Min...
Jonathan Ashworth | 540 c545 (Link to this contribution) Let me begin by adopting what is rapidly becoming the custom today and pay tribute to every Member w...
Alun Michael | 540 c545 (Link to this contribution) And take note of all your future suggestions.
Edward Leigh | 540 c548-9 (Link to this contribution) We have either the hon. Member for Leicester South (Jonathan Ashworth) to thank for this debate—we a...
Jonathan Ashworth | 540 c547-8 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a good point and she is quite right. I hope that the Minister listened to both t...
Jane Ellison | 540 c547 (Link to this contribution) I understand that Somalia has not ratified the UN convention on the rights of the child. Perhaps the...
Jonathan Ashworth | 540 c547 (Link to this contribution) I absolutely agree, and I hope that the use of children in these conflicts will be explicitly referr...
Jeremy Corbyn | 540 c547 (Link to this contribution) I am sure my hon. Friend, like me, will have read of Amnesty International's concerns about child so...
Jonathan Ashworth | 540 c545-7 (Link to this contribution) Indeed. In my Leicester constituency I represent a significant Somali diaspora community, many of w...
Edward Leigh | 540 c550-3 (Link to this contribution) I am not attacking aid to Somaliland. I am talking about aid that goes directly to the Somali Govern...
Speaker | 540 c553 (Link to this contribution) Order. Nine Members are trying to catch my eye. The winding-up speeches will start at 5.36 pm, so if...
Edward Leigh | 540 c549-50 (Link to this contribution) I agree entirely and apologise if my opening remarks had a defeatist tone. I did not mean to convey ...
Martin Horwood | 540 c550 (Link to this contribution) I rather agree with the hon. Gentleman about having a federal organisation of the possible state, wh...
Alun Michael | 540 c549 (Link to this contribution) I do not think we should be quite so defeatist, given that the Somalis themselves have a model that ...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c511 (Link to this contribution) There would be such a danger if we constructed the conference in the wrong way. I am talking about s...
Tony Cunningham | 540 c511 (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome the conference on Somalia, but is there a danger that the country's humanitarian...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c510-1 (Link to this contribution) Yes, of course. The right hon. Gentleman has been a great expert on, and friend of, Somaliland for a...
Alun Michael | 540 c509 (Link to this contribution) What the Foreign Secretary says about the situation in Somalia is absolutely true, and his interest ...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c509 (Link to this contribution) I beg to move,"That this House has considered the matter of how to build a stable and peaceful Somal...
Laura Sandys | 540 c511 (Link to this contribution) I very much welcome the conference in London, but how will it differ from the one that is being held...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c516-7 (Link to this contribution) Humanitarian access is a critical issue that my right hon. Friend the Secretary of State for Interna...
Jeremy Corbyn | 540 c511 (Link to this contribution) I am grateful to the Foreign Secretary for giving way on that point and I welcome the conference and...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c511 (Link to this contribution) They will be integrated. I have discussed that a couple of times with my Turkish counterpart. In rec...
Tony Baldry | 540 c514 (Link to this contribution) As one knows from the UN court in Sierra Leone, imprisoning people is quite expensive. Does my right...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c511-4 (Link to this contribution) I can envisage that day, but we are not there yet. As the right hon. Member for Cardiff South and Pe...
Bob Stewart | 540 c515 (Link to this contribution) There are disturbing reports that about 50 British nationals are involved with al-Shabaab. Has my ri...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c515 (Link to this contribution) The United Kingdom is very active on the provision of increased prison places in the country and the...
Rushanara Ali | 540 c516 (Link to this contribution) Will the conference look at giving people in Somalia access to humanitarian aid, which has been bloc...
Lord Hague of Richmond | 540 c515-6 (Link to this contribution) Yes, they are justified. It would, of course, be difficult to put a precise number on these things, ...
Douglas Alexander | 540 c517-22 (Link to this contribution) I was a little surprised that the Foreign Secretary chose to mention the Maldives without the courte...
Richard Ottaway | 540 c522-3 (Link to this contribution) I congratulate the Foreign Secretary on his speech, on the work that he is doing in this regard, and...
Bob Stewart | 540 c527-8 (Link to this contribution) My wife started a camp in South Sudan, which by 1991-92 contained 100,000 people. While I was prepar...
Alun Michael | 540 c527 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady is absolutely right, and I am glad to say that those characteristics are reflected in ...
Laura Sandys | 540 c527 (Link to this contribution) As the right hon. Gentleman will know from his experience of the Somali community, in all the chaos ...
Alun Michael | 540 c526-7 (Link to this contribution) I welcome the Foreign Secretary's speech and his enthusiastic engagement with these issues. He is be...
Alun Michael | 540 c523 (Link to this contribution) In Wales we believe in the value of being part of the United Kingdom as well as having certain devol...
Alun Michael | 540 c523 (Link to this contribution) Will the hon. Gentleman give way?
Tony Baldry | 540 c532-3 (Link to this contribution) I am very pleased to follow the right hon. Member for Cardiff South and Penarth (Alun Michael) becau...
Alun Michael | 540 c528-32 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is right, and again it is interesting to observe the contrast between the north a...
Alun Michael | 540 c543 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman is making a very good point. Of course, economic development is also important fo...
Martin Horwood | 540 c542-3 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Gentleman makes an important point. AMISOM—the African Union Mission in Somalia—has made ge...
Martin Horwood | 540 c543-4 (Link to this contribution) The right hon. Gentleman makes an extremely important point, one I was going to address in due cours...
Rushanara Ali | 540 c537-40 (Link to this contribution) Somalia is one of the places that are seen most often through the lens of conflict, famine and human...
Tony Baldry | 540 c533-7 (Link to this contribution) Alas, the only time we see such crowds in Banbury is when the Queen comes to visit, and I am glad to...
Bob Stewart | 540 c542 (Link to this contribution) Military solutions are of course not acceptable in isolation, but what we require in this situation ...
Martin Horwood | 540 c540-2 (Link to this contribution) May I warmly welcome the Foreign Secretary's initial remarks and say that it is a pleasure to follow...
Penny Mordaunt | 540 c565-7 (Link to this contribution) It is a pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Battersea (Jane Ellison). I want to praise her for ra...
Richard Ottaway | 540 c523-6 (Link to this contribution) My comment, made in jest, has produced a serious response from the right hon. Gentleman. Countries t...
Edward Leigh | 540 c533 (Link to this contribution) Does that ever happen in Banbury?
Robert Buckland | 540 c558 (Link to this contribution) The hon. Lady makes a powerful case for the diaspora community in her constituency. I have a diaspor...
Speaker | 540 c569 (Link to this contribution) Order. I call Laura Sandys and ask that she sit down no later than 5.36 pm.
Subjects
Humanitarian aid Politics and government Piracy Terrorism Somalia Conferences Maldives
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