Debate on Thursday, 16 February 2012, in the House of Lords, led by Lord Howell of Guildford. The answering member was Lord Liddle.
EU: Recent Developments
Lords debate on motion to take note of recent developments in the European Union. Agreed to on question.
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- Parliamentary proceeding
- Reference
- 735 c934-1034
- Session
- 2010-12
- Department
- Foreign and Commonwealth Office
- Chamber / Committee
- House of Lords chamber
- Proceeding contributions
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Lord Howell of Guildford | 735 c939-40 (Link to this contribution) My noble friend puts forward one of the many challenges that we have to address. I will not go into ...
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Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c940 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very interested in all that, but the Prime Minister withdrew from the European People...
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Lord Ryder of Wensum | 735 c938-9 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to my noble friend for giving way. In light of all the wonderful objectives that ...
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Lord Howell of Guildford | 735 c936-8 (Link to this contribution) Not necessarily. I would like to give a straightforward answer to the noble Lord, who follows these ...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c936 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry to interrupt so early in the noble Lord’s introduction, but he mentioned safeguards. Some...
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Lord Howell of Guildford | 735 c934-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope that noble Lords will welcome the opportunity for a European Union debate in the li...
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Lord Howell of Guildford | 735 c934 (Link to this contribution) That this House takes note of recent developments in the European Union
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Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 735 c978-9 (Link to this contribution) Perhaps I may repeat that we have fighting in the streets in Greece and in other countries, such as ...
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Lord Hamilton of Epsom | 735 c979-81 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like many noble Lords who are contributing to this debate, I am a member of Sub-Committee ...
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Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 735 c978 (Link to this contribution) The eurozone has proved that a single currency cannot work without fiscal and political union. A lot...
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Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 735 c978 (Link to this contribution) But that was happening in London in August.
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Lord Risby | 735 c986-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the eurozone crisis, the very weak European economies and excessive government debt have t...
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Lord Monks | 735 c981-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this debate has inevitably concentrated on the very difficult and testing economic situati...
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Lord Newby | 735 c984-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, like other noble Lords, I will concentrate my remarks on recent economic developments, par...
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Lord Stoddart of Swindon | 735 c977 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very pleased to be following the noble Lord, Lord Flight, and I am sure that the Hous...
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Lord Gilbert | 735 c978 (Link to this contribution) He is a Dutchman; that is why.
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Lord Flight | 735 c975-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, a noble Lord in this debate and yesterday referred to Britain’s exports to the EU represen...
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Lord Harrison | 735 c957-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this is a timely and important debate, as the European Union is facing its most serious cr...
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Lord Kakkar | 735 c959-61 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, as is quite right, this debate has focused principally on questions related to the economi...
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Lord Higgins | 735 c961-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Kakkar, has raised—entirely appropriately, given the breadth of the M...
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Lord Grenfell | 735 c964-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Higgins. We first debated Britain's...
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Earl of Sandwich | 735 c965-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I begin by regretting the absence of my noble friend Lord Williamson, who would like to ha...
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Lord Brittan of Spennithorne | 735 c968-70 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the dramatic unfolding of the eurozone crisis, in particular the inevitable focus on the h...
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Lord Radice | 735 c970-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is always very good to follow the noble Lord, Lord Brittan, who, as usual, is extremely...
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Lord Dykes | 735 c972-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I expected to enjoy and appreciate the speech of the noble Lord, Lord Radice, and I have d...
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Lord Mandelson | 735 c954-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I do not know whether the noble Lord, Lord Lamont, is more canary or Cassandra. I could ta...
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Lord Howe of Aberavon | 735 c957 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I have to say a rather surprising thing: my intended observations are insufficiently organ...
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Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 735 c1015-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I could respectfully say to the noble Baroness that the Order Paper says that the ...
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Lord Teverson | 735 c1013-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, we have heard an excellent diversity of views around the Chamber. I will take up one point...
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Baroness Stowell of Beeston | 735 c1015 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitate to rise in a debate that is not time-limited, but perhaps noble Lords will find...
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Lord Tugendhat | 735 c1009-11 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is many years since the noble Lord, Lord Hannay, and I were working not together but in...
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Lord Howell of Guildford | 735 c1007 (Link to this contribution) I know we have been told not to interrupt each others’ speeches, and I apologise for doing so, but I...
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Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 735 c1007-9 (Link to this contribution) I am very grateful to the noble Lord for having, after two and a half months, actually managed to ex...
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Lord Judd | 735 c1003-5 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been very good to hear these inspiring words and we are glad that the noble Lord, L...
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Lord Hannay of Chiswick | 735 c1006-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Judd. We are both on the same committee an...
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Lord Bates | 735 c1002-3 (Link to this contribution) I would indeed be interested in that. I am going on other figures, which came from the European Unio...
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Lord Bates | 735 c1001-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I wonder whether it is possible to be an economic sceptic but also a political enthusiast ...
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 735 c1002 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, would the noble Lord be interested in the Pink Book figures, which put our net cash contri...
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Lord Dobbs | 735 c996-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it has been a true pleasure to listen to this debate. It has been insightful, it has fille...
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Lord Willoughby de Broke | 735 c998-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Dobbs. In his excellent speech, the ...
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Lord Teverson | 735 c999 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, can I just say that I find that remark offensive because it likens German economic policy,...
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Lord Willoughby de Broke | 735 c999-1001 (Link to this contribution) I am sorry that the noble Lord takes it like that. The fact is that the German Finance Minister, Her...
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Lord Kerr of Kinlochard | 735 c988-91 (Link to this contribution) The Minister ranged widely in his elegant opening remarks but the debate has tended to concentrate o...
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Baroness Wheatcroft | 735 c991-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the European Union could and should be a thriving single market. That was the proclaimed a...
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Lord Clinton-Davis | 735 c993-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the single market is not the only feature of the European Union. I was very glad to hear m...
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Lord Taverne | 735 c995-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I challenge the conventional wisdom that prevails in much of the media, and most of the Co...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c1021 (Link to this contribution) Noble and Europhile.
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 735 c1021 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hesitated to put my name down to speak today because I have already said most of what I ...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c1020-1 (Link to this contribution) Okay I will. The UK was 113: the latest figure is 112. This will read much more easily in Hansard. S...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c1018-20 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am quite happy to believe everything that the noble Lord, Lord James of Blackheath, has ...
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Lord James of Blackheath | 735 c1016-8 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I hope the minute that that has taken has not come off my time. I do not wish noble Lords ...
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 735 c1026 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, does the noble Lord accept that we Eurosceptics are not anti-European; we are merely again...
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Lord Liddle | 735 c1025-6 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, this has been a mammoth debate and a serious one, without any partisanship. In that spirit...
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Lord Cormack | 735 c1022-4 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at the end of such a long debate, the last speaker can only take some consolation, especia...
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 735 c1021-2 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I would not remove their nobility. That Bill passed through your Lordships’ House unamended and...
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 735 c1028-31 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, at the end of a seven-hour debate in which a very wide range of points have been made and ...
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Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 735 c1032 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord is enjoying himself attacking Eurosceptics right, left and centre. Is he going to ans...
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 735 c1031-2 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in the context of a global recession, the Greeks would be facing a very severe run on the ...
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Lord Liddle | 735 c1027 (Link to this contribution) You are anti-European Union. I should have corrected myself—but you are anti.
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Lord Liddle | 735 c1027-8 (Link to this contribution) That is a nice compliment from the noble Lord. What worries me is when people say, ““Yes, we want Eu...
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Lord Deben | 735 c1027 (Link to this contribution) Given that the noble Lord has been interrupted, perhaps I may point out that there are some on these...
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 735 c1033 (Link to this contribution) I was going on Pink Book figures, which include a number of contributions which we make to the Europ...
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 735 c1032 (Link to this contribution) The coalition Government are clear that Europe is our firm base from which we look outwards. France,...
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 735 c1033 (Link to this contribution) We will continue to disagree. The noble Lord, Lord Kakkar, raised the working time directive and as...
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 735 c1033-4 (Link to this contribution) As I understand it, there is an individual right to opt-out voluntarily from the working time direct...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c1033 (Link to this contribution) It is not the case that we have a general opt-out on the working time directive. I do not know what ...
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Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 735 c944 (Link to this contribution) I remind the noble Lord that the reference to blinkers was to those who drew something positive from...
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Lord Tebbit | 735 c944 (Link to this contribution) The noble and learned Lord suggests that I find something satisfactory in these difficulties. I do n...
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Lord Tebbit | 735 c943 (Link to this contribution) I am waiting for the noble and learned Lord to give us a precise description of his party’s policies...
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Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 735 c943 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord raises an interesting point. In this sense, one has a negotiation from which the UK e...
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Lord King of Bridgwater | 735 c943 (Link to this contribution) In these extremely difficult negotiations with Greece, in which people presumably outside Greece are...
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Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 735 c941-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I thank the Minister for his very clear tour d’horizon of recent EU developments and empat...
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Lord Wallace of Saltaire | 735 c941 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I think it would appropriate if we continued with the debate. The Minister has sat down. I...
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Lord Harrison | 735 c941 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, in setting up ESMA, the European Securities and Markets Authority, have we not already giv...
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Lord Howell of Guildford | 735 c941 (Link to this contribution) Yes, I would like to tell the noble Lord a great deal more and detail the reasons why the decision w...
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Lord Richard | 735 c940 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, the noble Lord did say in the course of his speech that he would say something about the s...
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Lord Howell of Guildford | 735 c940 (Link to this contribution) That is a debating point from the noble Lord, if I may say so. He believes that that is what has hap...
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Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 735 c953-4 (Link to this contribution) Possible. What I was about to say was that politics is more accurately described as choosing between...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c954 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down—
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c954 (Link to this contribution) Before the noble Lord sits down—.
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Lord Lamont of Lerwick | 735 c951-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the right reverend Prelate. I think Thomas More might have been...
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Bishop of Guildford | 735 c949-51 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for this debate, and indeed warmly welcome it, includin...
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Lord Davidson of Glen Clova | 735 c944-5 (Link to this contribution) I am much obliged. I was interested in the lists of people who were to be expelled from the EU that ...
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Baroness Garden of Frognal | 735 c944 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, given the length of this debate, it is not customary for quite so many interventions to ta...
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Lord Jay of Ewelme | 735 c948-9 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, last week was the 20th anniversary of the signing of the Maastricht treaty, which came sho...
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Baroness Falkner of Margravine | 735 c945-7 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, I too welcome the opportunity to speak to recent developments in the EU. I recognise that ...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c954 (Link to this contribution) Is this a new doctrine? It is quite normal to intervene if the noble Lord has not actually sat down....
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Baroness Garden of Frognal | 735 c954 (Link to this contribution) My apologies to the noble Lord but the noble Lord, Lord Lamont, has sat down, and it is time to move...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c954 (Link to this contribution) The noble Lord indicated that he was about to sit down. I intervened in the normal way. There have b...
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Baroness Garden of Frognal | 735 c954 (Link to this contribution) It is also the case that no Member who is speaking has to give way to an intervention. It is up to t...
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Lord Giddens | 735 c1011-3 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, noble Lords will forgive me if this point has been made but it is very odd that of 39 spea...
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Lord Lea of Crondall | 735 c954 (Link to this contribution) If people would stop interrupting, I have a question.
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Lord Pearson of Rannoch | 735 c1031 (Link to this contribution) My Lords, perhaps I may put the question slightly differently. Would the Greek people be suffering a...
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- European Union EU internal trade Fiscal policy EU common foreign and security policy Economic situation EU action EU external trade Economic and monetary union EU economic policy EU institutions Greece Treaties UK membership of EU
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