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Lord Davies of Oldham
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asked Her Majesty's Government:Further to the Written Statement by Lord Davies of Oldham on 20 March (WS 42–6), whether any government department or agency other than the Ministry of Defence has a correspondence database which is unable to distinguish between Freedom of Information requests and other correspondence from Members of...
asked Her Majesty's Government:Further to the Written Statement by Lord Davies of Oldham on 20 March (WS 42–6), whether any government department or agency other than the Ministry of Defence has a correspondence database which is unable to distinguish between Freedom of Information requests and other correspondence from Members of...
Asked by
Lord Astor of Hever
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
3 April 2008
Unless otherwise stated in my Written Statement on 20 March 2008 (Official Report, WS 42-6) departments have correspondence databases which can distinguish between Freedom of Information requests and other correspondence from Members of Parliament and Peers.
Subjects
Databases; Correspondence; Freedom of information; Government departments; Members; Peers
Date
3 April 2008
Reference
2836; 700 c199WA
House
House of Lords
asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will publish the interim report due on 14 December by Mr Kieran Poynter into the loss of personal confidential information by HM Revenue and Customs; and
asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether they will publish the interim report due on 14 December by Mr Kieran Poynter into the loss of personal confidential information by HM Revenue and Customs; and
Asked by
Baroness Noakes
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
7 January 2008
Kieran Poynter's interim report was published on 17 December and I repeated in your Lordships' House the Statement on the matter which the Chancellor of the Exchequer had made to the House of Commons on that day. Mr Poynter is being assisted by a team from PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC).
The Treasury has entered into a contract with PWC that is commercially confidential and it is too soon to say what the final cost of the ongoing review will be.
Subjects
Contracts; Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Costs; Personal records; Reviews; Revenue and Customs
Date
7 January 2008
Reference
610; 697 c181WA
House
House of Lords
Whether they have entered into a contract with Mr Kieran Poynter to carry out a review of the loss of personal confidential information by HM Revenue and Customs; and, if so, whether they will place a copy of the contract in the Library of the House; and
Whether they have entered into a contract with Mr Kieran Poynter to carry out a review of the loss of personal confidential information by HM Revenue and Customs; and, if so, whether they will place a copy of the contract in the Library of the House; and
Asked by
Baroness Noakes
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
7 January 2008
Kieran Poynter's interim report was published on 17 December and I repeated in your Lordships' House the Statement on the matter which the Chancellor of the Exchequer had made to the House of Commons on that day. Mr Poynter is being assisted by a team from PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC).
The Treasury has entered into a contract with PWC that is commercially confidential and it is too soon to say what the final cost of the ongoing review will be.
Subjects
Contracts; Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Costs; Personal records; Reviews; Revenue and Customs
Date
7 January 2008
Reference
611; 697 c181WA
House
House of Lords
How much they expect to pay for the work being carried out by Mr Kieran Poynter for the review of the loss of personal confidential information by HM Revenue and Customs.
How much they expect to pay for the work being carried out by Mr Kieran Poynter for the review of the loss of personal confidential information by HM Revenue and Customs.
Asked by
Baroness Noakes
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
7 January 2008
Kieran Poynter's interim report was published on 17 December and I repeated in your Lordships' House the Statement on the matter which the Chancellor of the Exchequer had made to the House of Commons on that day. Mr Poynter is being assisted by a team from PricewaterhouseCoopers (PWC).
The Treasury has entered into a contract with PWC that is commercially confidential and it is too soon to say what the final cost of the ongoing review will be.
Subjects
Contracts; Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Costs; Personal records; Reviews; Revenue and Customs
Date
7 January 2008
Reference
612; 697 c181WA
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the police continue to have no reason to believe that the child benefit data have fallen into the wrong hands. On 20 November, the Chancellor announced an independent review of HMRC’s data-handling procedure to be conducted by Kieran Poynter, the chair of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
My Lords, the police continue to have no reason to believe that the child benefit data have fallen into the wrong hands. On 20 November, the Chancellor announced an independent review of HMRC’s data-handling procedure to be conducted by Kieran Poynter, the chair of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1697
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Further to the Statement by the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 20 November about the loss of data by HM Revenue and Customs, whether any further details have come to light over the loss of the data; and whether any more files containing confidential personal information are unaccounted for.
Further to the Statement by the Chancellor of the Exchequer on 20 November about the loss of data by HM Revenue and Customs, whether any further details have come to light over the loss of the data; and whether any more files containing confidential personal information are unaccounted for.
Asked by
Baroness Noakes
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
For answer on
5 December 2007
Answered on
5 December 2007
My Lords, the police continue to have no reason to believe that the child benefit data have fallen into the wrong hands. On 20 November, the Chancellor announced an independent review of HMRC’s data-handling procedure to be conducted by Kieran Poynter, the chair of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1697
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the Chancellor made it clear in his Statement how much he regretted this grievous error in data-handling by the department. However, the noble Baroness will recognise that the Government have put in hand procedures to guarantee that it does not happen again, and that is the issue about which the nation is exercised.
My Lords, we have lessons to learn and that is why Kieran Poynter is to produce a report, which the Chancellor will bring to the attention of the other place. However, a new three-step procedure has already been established for staff who handle requests for bulk data transfers. Transfers take place only when, in addition to being lawful, they are absolutely necessary, when written authorisation has been given by a senior manager and when clear instructions have been given regarding the appropriate standard of protection for the transfer. The Government have already taken that appropriate action in response to this grievous mistake.
My Lords, the Chancellor made it clear in his Statement how much he regretted this grievous error in data-handling by the department. However, the noble Baroness will recognise that the Government have put in hand procedures to guarantee that it does not happen again, and that is the issue about which the nation is exercised.
My Lords, we have lessons to learn and that is why Kieran Poynter is to produce a report, which the Chancellor will bring to the attention of the other place. However, a new three-step procedure has already been established for staff who handle requests for bulk data transfers. Transfers take place only when, in addition to being lawful, they are absolutely necessary, when written authorisation has been given by a senior manager and when clear instructions have been given regarding the appropriate standard of protection for the transfer. The Government have already taken that appropriate action in response to this grievous mistake.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Baroness Noakes
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply but since the Chancellor made his Statement two weeks ago, we have heard that both the banks and the National Audit Office have publicly disagreed with his version of events. We now know that none of the data was encrypted and that the letters of apology that were subsequently sent contained confidential information, with some being sent to the wrong addresses; worst of all, the disks have not been found. Does the Minister agree that it would be difficult to find a more comprehensive example of incompetence?
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1698
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I am glad that the noble Earl is able to be so categorical about these issues in advance of the report which is being prepared for the Chancellor and which we shall all have the opportunity to discuss. However, if the burden of the noble Earl’s contribution is that the Government should cease to use computers and data collection extensively, how does he think that administration will be carried on in this country?
My Lords, I am glad that the noble Earl is able to be so categorical about these issues in advance of the report which is being prepared for the Chancellor and which we shall all have the opportunity to discuss. However, if the burden of the noble Earl’s contribution is that the Government should cease to use computers and data collection extensively, how does he think that administration will be carried on in this country?
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Earl of Onslow
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, the Minister may be aware of the ““Panorama”” programme on Friday last week in which a professor of computing at Cambridge said, ““We have warned the Government repeatedly that if you have a very large database with a very large number of people having access to it, it is not a question of if but when there will be a breach of security””. Is that not a lesson which the Government should have learnt and which they should not have to relearn now?
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1698
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, other large organisations have had embarrassments in data protection. Nevertheless, we have laws in place to protect the public so far as private authorities are concerned, and the same laws obtain with government departments that handle sensitive information. We have to reassure the public and regain public confidence in the wake of the problem that arose a month or so ago and, as I indicated, that is exactly how the Government are acting.
My Lords, other large organisations have had embarrassments in data protection. Nevertheless, we have laws in place to protect the public so far as private authorities are concerned, and the same laws obtain with government departments that handle sensitive information. We have to reassure the public and regain public confidence in the wake of the problem that arose a month or so ago and, as I indicated, that is exactly how the Government are acting.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Hughes of Woodside
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, has my noble friend seen the extremely worrying report in today’s Daily Telegraph that the Information Commissioner has had several reports from private industry about the failure to protect data? Does it not show that it is not only the Government who are at fault but that laxity in data protection is widespread?
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1699
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, it is a very large review and I do not have a detailed timetable on its completion. However, the Chancellor is expecting at least an interim report from Kieran Poynter on the specific difficulties. I understand entirely the noble Lord’s comment that there are wider issues at stake—there are, and they have increased urgency as a result of this development. However, I cannot give him the assurance that we will be in a position to make a report before Christmas-time.
My Lords, it is a very large review and I do not have a detailed timetable on its completion. However, the Chancellor is expecting at least an interim report from Kieran Poynter on the specific difficulties. I understand entirely the noble Lord’s comment that there are wider issues at stake—there are, and they have increased urgency as a result of this development. However, I cannot give him the assurance that we will be in a position to make a report before Christmas-time.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Newby
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, on reassuring the public, the Minister will be aware that, on 21 November, the Prime Minister announced that the Cabinet Secretary and security experts were reviewing the storage and use of data across all government departments. The Government subsequently announced that there will be a Statement when that review is completed. Given the considerable public concern and urgency on this issue, can the Minister give us an indication of the timetable for the completion of that review? In particular, may we have an assurance that, at the very least, an interim Statement will be made before the House rises for the Christmas Recess?
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1699
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the noble Lord will recognise that he has largely reiterated what the Chancellor relayed to the House in October. As for guaranteeing the situation for the future, action is already being taken to increase security of the information. If he is asking me to say that any Government can guarantee that no mishap will ever occur, I am not able to do that. However, I can assure him that we have put in place processes that clearly ought to have been followed when this event occurred. Those processes have been reinforced and re-established so that everyone in the Civil Service is aware of the new constraints. Those are the protections for the information that is given to government. Of course I agree with him that, when the public give this information to government, they expect it to be protected.
My Lords, the noble Lord will recognise that he has largely reiterated what the Chancellor relayed to the House in October. As for guaranteeing the situation for the future, action is already being taken to increase security of the information. If he is asking me to say that any Government can guarantee that no mishap will ever occur, I am not able to do that. However, I can assure him that we have put in place processes that clearly ought to have been followed when this event occurred. Those processes have been reinforced and re-established so that everyone in the Civil Service is aware of the new constraints. Those are the protections for the information that is given to government. Of course I agree with him that, when the public give this information to government, they expect it to be protected.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Lawson of Blaby
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, is the Minister aware that, even if these disks have not gone astray, and we all hope that they have not, there is also the scandal that individuals' personal financial details, which were given to a government department under confidentiality that has hitherto always been observed, were sent to the National Audit Office even though the National Audit Office has made it clear that it did not need them? It is important that we know which Minister authorised this unprecedented disclosure. Can the noble Lord guarantee that this will not happen again?
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1699-700
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, that may indeed be an important point on which Kieran Poynter comments. The Information Commissioner has an important role to play in this respect, and he recognises that he has an important contribution to make to this debate. However, we should not underestimate the challenges presented by data collection. What is important, as the noble Lord suggested, is that we learn from all levels of expertise what needs to be done and then carry that out as soon and forthrightly as possible. The Chancellor has indicated that by the action he has already taken.
My Lords, that may indeed be an important point on which Kieran Poynter comments. The Information Commissioner has an important role to play in this respect, and he recognises that he has an important contribution to make to this debate. However, we should not underestimate the challenges presented by data collection. What is important, as the noble Lord suggested, is that we learn from all levels of expertise what needs to be done and then carry that out as soon and forthrightly as possible. The Chancellor has indicated that by the action he has already taken.
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord St John of Bletso
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, following this debacle, can the Minister give assurances that the powers of the Information Commissioner can be strengthened to prevent further loss of confidential information? Does the Minister agree that there is a strong case for more shared managed services in the public sector, which will provide both technical and, just as importantly, best-practice management support to prevent further breaches?
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
696 c1698-9
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether the compact disc lost by HM Revenue and Customs en route from Newcastle to Edinburgh containing information on 15,000 Standard Life customers was encrypted; and
asked Her Majesty's Government:Whether the compact disc lost by HM Revenue and Customs en route from Newcastle to Edinburgh containing information on 15,000 Standard Life customers was encrypted; and
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 December 2007
On 13 November HMRC initiated immediate increased security with a new process:
transfers will now only take place if they are absolutely necessary;
written authorisation for the transfer has to be given by a senior HMRC manager; and
a clear instruction has been given regarding the appropriate standard of protection for the transfer.
Where directors decide that a data transfer by disc is unavoidable such media must, in every case, be securely encrypted at the appropriate level.
On 20 November the Chancellor announced an independent review of HMRC's data-handling procedures to be conducted by Kieran Poynter, the chair of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Subjects
Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Standard Life Assurance; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
198; 696 c203-4WA
House
House of Lords
How many compact discs sent by HM Revenue and Customs have been lost during 2007; and
How many compact discs sent by HM Revenue and Customs have been lost during 2007; and
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 December 2007
On 13 November HMRC initiated immediate increased security with a new process:
transfers will now only take place if they are absolutely necessary;
written authorisation for the transfer has to be given by a senior HMRC manager; and
a clear instruction has been given regarding the appropriate standard of protection for the transfer.
Where directors decide that a data transfer by disc is unavoidable such media must, in every case, be securely encrypted at the appropriate level.
On 20 November the Chancellor announced an independent review of HMRC's data-handling procedures to be conducted by Kieran Poynter, the chair of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Subjects
Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Standard Life Assurance; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
199; 696 c203-4WA
House
House of Lords
What steps HM Revenue and Customs have taken to prevent the loss of compact discs in transit in the future.
What steps HM Revenue and Customs have taken to prevent the loss of compact discs in transit in the future.
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 December 2007
On 13 November HMRC initiated immediate increased security with a new process:
transfers will now only take place if they are absolutely necessary;
written authorisation for the transfer has to be given by a senior HMRC manager; and
a clear instruction has been given regarding the appropriate standard of protection for the transfer.
Where directors decide that a data transfer by disc is unavoidable such media must, in every case, be securely encrypted at the appropriate level.
On 20 November the Chancellor announced an independent review of HMRC's data-handling procedures to be conducted by Kieran Poynter, the chair of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Subjects
Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Standard Life Assurance; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
201; 696 c203-4WA
House
House of Lords
asked Her Majesty's Government:Why Standard Life customers whose data was on the compact disc lost by HM Revenue and Customs were not notified until a month after the loss was reported.
asked Her Majesty's Government:Why Standard Life customers whose data was on the compact disc lost by HM Revenue and Customs were not notified until a month after the loss was reported.
Asked by
Viscount Astor
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 December 2007
It was reported to HMRC in late September that the CD had not been received. Action was taken immediately to establish with the external courier and the data production/dispatch areas within HMRC whether the discs were still in their possession. The courier was also requested to make extensive searches throughout all its depots. Once it was established from the courier that the data were definitely lost, steps were taken to issue letters to customers.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Standard Life Assurance; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
200; 696 c204WA
House
House of Lords
asked Her Majesty's Government:With regard to the two information discs which went missing during transportation between their offices, and which were the subject of a Statement in the House, whether passwords were written on the discs or available in the packaging; and, if so, whether this is current government procedure.
asked Her Majesty's Government:With regard to the two information discs which went missing during transportation between their offices, and which were the subject of a Statement in the House, whether passwords were written on the discs or available in the packaging; and, if so, whether this is current government procedure.
Asked by
Lord Laird
(Crossbench)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 December 2007
It would be inappropriate for me to provide information relating to this issue at this stage, as there is an ongoing Metropolitan Police Service investigation.
On 20 November the Chancellor also announced an independent review of HMRC's data-handling procedures to be conducted by Kieron Poynter, the chair of PricewaterhouseCoopers.
Subjects
Child benefit; Data protection; Databases; Personal records; Lost property; Security; Revenue and Customs
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
489; 696 c204WA
House
House of Lords
asked Her Majesty's Government:What steps they have taken to improve security for discs carrying confidential government information during transportation between departments.
asked Her Majesty's Government:What steps they have taken to improve security for discs carrying confidential government information during transportation between departments.
Asked by
Lord Laird
(Crossbench)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 December 2007
Government policy requires that departments, "““handle personal data in ways which incorporate appropriate technical and organisational measures against unauthorised or unlawful processing and against accidental loss or destruction of or damage to such data””."
Procedures for the security of discs carrying sensitive data, along with all other relevant procedures, will be examined as part of the reviews announced by the Prime Minister on 21 November (Official Report, col. 1179.)
Subjects
Data protection; Databases; Government departments; Personal records; Security
Date
5 December 2007
Reference
490; 696 c204-5WA
House
House of Lords
Why the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency requires those who are registering the ownership of a vehicle to state their age.
Why the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency requires those who are registering the ownership of a vehicle to state their age.
Asked by
Lord Vinson
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
19 January 2006
The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) does not keep a register of vehicle owners, but a register of vehicle keepers; that is, those who are responsible for the vehicle’s use on the roads. The DVLA requires the vehicle keeper’s date of birth in order to aid prosecution in any court proceedings.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Databases; Age; Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency; Motor vehicles
Date
19 January 2006
Reference
3356; 677 c128WA
House
House of Lords
Further to the statement by the Lord Davies of Oldham on 29 November (Official Report, col. 116), when they started work on discontinuing the requirement for the paper part of the photographic driving licence to be presented to a police station on request; and when they expect to complete this work.
Further to the statement by the Lord Davies of Oldham on 29 November (Official Report, col. 116), when they started work on discontinuing the requirement for the paper part of the photographic driving licence to be presented to a police station on request; and when they expect to complete this work.
Asked by
Lord Skelmersdale
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
9 December 2005
The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency consulted on the future of the paper counterpart to the photocard driving licence between February and May 2004, with 82 per cent of respondents favouring its abolition. The counterpart will not be abolished before an electronic retrieval system is put in place to enable the police to immediately access endorsement information currently shown on the counterpart. Building and testing the computer infrastructure to deliver this access is likely to take between three to five years.
Subjects
Databases; Police; Driving licences
Date
9 December 2005
Reference
2722; 676 c128WA
House
House of Lords