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To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs pursuant to the answer of 17 November 2005, Official Report, column 1482W to the hon. Member for Hemel Hempstead (Mike Penning) what the cost of insurance for (a) the silver set in Washington, (b) the two chandeliers in Istanbul,...

Asked by
Angus Brendan MacNeil (Scottish National Party)
Answering body
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
20 December 2005
Reference
440 c2850W; 38546
House
House of Commons
Type
Impact assessments
Date
20 December 2005
Reference
HINF 2005/2176

To ask the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland what steps he will take to assist with insurance costs employers who wish to take on young apprentices for training.

Asked by
Peter Robinson (Democratic Unionist Party)
Answering body
Northern Ireland Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
19 December 2005
Reference
37607; 440 c2580W
House
House of Commons
Type
House of Commons papers
Date
19 December 2005
Reference
HC 784 2005-06
House
House of Commons

It is Amendment No. 20.

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c188GC
House
House of Lords

Clause 1 requires the court to determine,"““whether the defendant should have taken particular steps to meet the standard of care””." Does it not therefore follow that Clause 1 would only apply to statutory duties that impose some standard of care? That would narrow it down.

Member
Lord Goodhart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c194GC
House
House of Lords

Indeed. Because Clause 1 is, in a sense, dealing with that perception, it draws attention to these issues, which we know from not only the length of time that we have taken on this one amendment, but also the debate and conversation that is happening outside your Lordships’ House and Parliament. That...

Member
Baroness Ashton of Upholland (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c197GC
House
House of Lords

I do not want to prolong the discussion. I agree very much with the noble Baroness—we do not want to discourage things—but what on earth is the point of Clause 1 unless it makes some change? We are groping to try to find a reasonable balance so that the courts do not make some...

Member
Lord Chorley (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c196-7GC
House
House of Lords

That was a tour de force by the Minister, who cited case after case. I was left with the clear impression—and my mind went back to our discussion of trees—that she has very cleverly produced a money tree for the legal profession. It will be very difficult to make any progress...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c215-6GC
House
House of Lords

had given notice of his intention to move Amendment No. 10:"Page 1, line 11, at end insert—" ““(   )   In determining a claim in negligence the court shall have regard to— (a)   the extent that the person undertaking the activity obeyed the instructions given by the person providing the activities, or (b)   the influence of...

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c225GC
House
House of Lords

I hope that Members of the Committee will now understand that this amendment seeks to produce an acceptable Clause 1. I am concerned by what I hear outside this place. There is a rising tide of opinion that it is better to do without Clause 1, which was very much reflected in what the noble...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c224-5GC
House
House of Lords

I say to the noble Earl, Lord Erroll, that the problem is that Clause 1 does not attempt to do any of the things in which he so clearly and passionately believes. Paragraph 12 of the Explanatory Notes states:"““This provision reflects the existing law and approach of the courts as expressed in recent judgments...

Member
Viscount Eccles (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c236-7GC
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 3:"Page 1, line 8, leave out paragraphs (a) and (b) and insert—" ““(a)   prevent an activity or the provision of a facility for the purpose of public benefit at all, to a particular extent or in a particular way, or (b)   discourage persons from undertaking functions in connection with such...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c202-6GC
House
House of Lords

Not to a non-lawyer, you have to understand. The House of Lords made the point that there was no justification for the activity—in other words, it looks at value judgments all the time. That is, in a sense, what I was trying to capture with the provision. In not having ““desirable””,...

Member
Baroness Ashton of Upholland (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c217-8GC
House
House of Lords

This has been a useful development triggered by my noble friend Lord Lucas. If I recall the case to which the noble Baroness referred, I would have known it as ““The Wagon Mound””. I am talking a little from memory, but I recall that in that case Lord Reid drew a contrast with Bolton...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c218GC
House
House of Lords

Many would contend that such planting is not environmental improvement, but I think that those who plant those trees think that they improve the environment. All that I will say about trees is that we have reached a remarkable situation in London, where the plane trees are very much a feature. As...

Member
Lord Hunt of Wirral (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c210-1GC
House
House of Lords

Before my noble friend withdraws the amendment, and on the basis of what has been said, I wonder whether we actually need the words ““benefit”” or ““desirable””. Why, in this legislation, should we imply that what we are saying applies only to something that is in some way approved of morally?...

Member
Lord Lucas (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c216GC
House
House of Lords

I know the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, would rather not have Clause 1 because he has made that clear. I shall go over the ground again in a slightly different way. Earlier I mentioned what the Better Regulation Task Force said—and when people believe that there is something wrong with the law, there is a perception...

Member
Baroness Ashton of Upholland (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c214-5GC
House
House of Lords

I do not think that Dubai is dangerous. Not all the Middle East is dangerous. That is almost like America classifying countries as America and the rest of the world. To suggest that the entire Middle East is dangerous is a little inaccurate.

Member
Earl of Erroll (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c239GC
House
House of Lords

This may be a convenient moment for the Committee to adjourn until Tuesday at 2 pm.

Member
Baroness Ashton of Upholland (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 December 2005
Reference
676 c244GC
House
House of Lords