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Does my noble friend share my concern that while good intentions are being declared across the world, rainforest logging operations continue at a higher rate than before? Is it not just possible that funnelling loads of money through the World Bank is the wrong way to go about things? My fear is that in relying on REDD-plus and so-called sustainable forest management, fund providers are being hoodwinked? Would my noble friend and her colleagues therefore give much greater support direct to NGOs and the like which know what is happening on the ground and are much better placed to achieve early practical progress at the grass roots, where it really will make a difference?
Does my noble friend share my concern that while good intentions are being declared across the world, rainforest logging operations continue at a higher rate than before? Is it not just possible that funnelling loads of money through the World Bank is the wrong way to go about things? My fear is that in relying on REDD-plus and so-called sustainable forest management, fund providers are being hoodwinked? Would my noble friend and her colleagues therefore give much greater support direct to NGOs and the like which know what is happening on the ground and are much better placed to achieve early practical progress at the grass roots, where it really will make a difference?
Asked by
Lord Eden of Winton
(Conservative)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
13 September 2011
My Lords, my noble friend is to be congratulated on raising this issue again. It is true that these issues will not be dealt with singly by the UK or by Governments who are not prepared fully to accept that there is a lot of work and persuasion to be done, by rule of law, that illegal logging must be stopped. However, I reassure my noble friend that we work with NGOs and are a founding member of the Global Partnership on Forest and Landscape Restoration. We are working very closely with countries such as India to help restore and recover forests. My noble friend Lord Henley has just recently participated in the Global Partnership on Forest and Landscape Restoration in Bonn. Governments can do their part and NGOs can do theirs. However, countries where this is happening also have to respond with severe penalties.
Subjects
International assistance; Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c622
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, my noble friend is to be congratulated on raising this issue again. It is true that these issues will not be dealt with singly by the UK or by Governments who are not prepared fully to accept that there is a lot of work and persuasion to be done, by rule of law, that illegal logging must be stopped. However, I reassure my noble friend that we work with NGOs and are a founding member of the Global Partnership on Forest and Landscape Restoration. We are working very closely with countries such as India to help restore and recover forests. My noble friend Lord Henley has just recently participated in the Global Partnership on Forest and Landscape Restoration in Bonn. Governments can do their part and NGOs can do theirs. However, countries where this is happening also have to respond with severe penalties.
My Lords, my noble friend is to be congratulated on raising this issue again. It is true that these issues will not be dealt with singly by the UK or by Governments who are not prepared fully to accept that there is a lot of work and persuasion to be done, by rule of law, that illegal logging must be stopped. However, I reassure my noble friend that we work with NGOs and are a founding member of the Global Partnership on Forest and Landscape Restoration. We are working very closely with countries such as India to help restore and recover forests. My noble friend Lord Henley has just recently participated in the Global Partnership on Forest and Landscape Restoration in Bonn. Governments can do their part and NGOs can do theirs. However, countries where this is happening also have to respond with severe penalties.
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Eden of Winton
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Does my noble friend share my concern that while good intentions are being declared across the world, rainforest logging operations continue at a higher rate than before? Is it not just possible that funnelling loads of money through the World Bank is the wrong way to go about things? My fear is that in relying on REDD-plus and so-called sustainable forest management, fund providers are being hoodwinked? Would my noble friend and her colleagues therefore give much greater support direct to NGOs and the like which know what is happening on the ground and are much better placed to achieve early practical progress at the grass roots, where it really will make a difference?
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c622
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I cannot give my noble friend a figure on the contribution at the moment; I will write to him on it. However, I repeat that we may think that some systems are weak, but we have to strengthen those systems—review and revise them—and also make countries where deforestation and illegal logging take place responsible for responding back positively.
I cannot give my noble friend a figure on the contribution at the moment; I will write to him on it. However, I repeat that we may think that some systems are weak, but we have to strengthen those systems—review and revise them—and also make countries where deforestation and illegal logging take place responsible for responding back positively.
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Avebury
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, what does my noble friend think about the UN-REDD initiative mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Eden? Is it cost-effective, and how much does the United Kingdom contribute to it annually?
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c624
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
The noble Lord talks about a specific case, which I will not refer to. In a more general response, I would like to say to noble Lords that we are ensuring that we respond proactively to the difficulties we are all facing with this issue. The multinational companies that deal in illegal logging will find that the penalties for this will be severe. That is the agreement we are trying to get from all our partner countries so that it is not just a small group of countries that are willing to apply severe penalties, but that the penalties will be severe at every border that illegal timber comes through. It is about greater partnership but it is also about recognising that we are only a small cog when it comes to dealing with these issues and it is really for the whole world to respond collectively.
The noble Lord talks about a specific case, which I will not refer to. In a more general response, I would like to say to noble Lords that we are ensuring that we respond proactively to the difficulties we are all facing with this issue. The multinational companies that deal in illegal logging will find that the penalties for this will be severe. That is the agreement we are trying to get from all our partner countries so that it is not just a small group of countries that are willing to apply severe penalties, but that the penalties will be severe at every border that illegal timber comes through. It is about greater partnership but it is also about recognising that we are only a small cog when it comes to dealing with these issues and it is really for the whole world to respond collectively.
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord St John of Bletso
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, can the noble Baroness give any indication as to whether our Government will be following the moves by Switzerland and Germany to investigate money-laundering of the proceeds of timber corruption by the chief minister of Sarawak in Malaysia? What other measures are being taken to identify and sanction those large international logging companies which do not ensure best practice in sustainable logging?
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623-4
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My noble friend has put the case perfectly for why we need to work incredibly hard. That is why the UK has supported developing countries to participate in the United Nations study on the economics of ecosystems and biodiversity which estimates, as I have said, that the huge financial cost is immense but the cost to species is even greater, and the initial long-term impact will be on us.
My noble friend has put the case perfectly for why we need to work incredibly hard. That is why the UK has supported developing countries to participate in the United Nations study on the economics of ecosystems and biodiversity which estimates, as I have said, that the huge financial cost is immense but the cost to species is even greater, and the initial long-term impact will be on us.
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Blencathra
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Does my noble friend agree that biodiversity and loss of species are even more important than climate change? With a huge amount of resources and tremendous effort, it is possible eventually to reverse climate change, but once a species is lost, it is gone for ever, and the damage could be irreparable. Does she also agree that this is not just a matter of polar bears, tigers or even red squirrels, but that many of the boring little unsexy species that could be lost by deforestation could actually be valuable to human life and existence?
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, what does my noble friend think about the UN-REDD initiative mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Eden? Is it cost-effective, and how much does the United Kingdom contribute to it annually?
My Lords, what does my noble friend think about the UN-REDD initiative mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Eden? Is it cost-effective, and how much does the United Kingdom contribute to it annually?
Asked by
Lord Avebury
(Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
13 September 2011
I cannot give my noble friend a figure on the contribution at the moment; I will write to him on it. However, I repeat that we may think that some systems are weak, but we have to strengthen those systems—review and revise them—and also make countries where deforestation and illegal logging take place responsible for responding back positively.
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c624
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, can the noble Baroness give any indication as to whether our Government will be following the moves by Switzerland and Germany to investigate money-laundering of the proceeds of timber corruption by the chief minister of Sarawak in Malaysia? What other measures are being taken to identify and sanction those large international logging companies which do not ensure best practice in sustainable logging?
My Lords, can the noble Baroness give any indication as to whether our Government will be following the moves by Switzerland and Germany to investigate money-laundering of the proceeds of timber corruption by the chief minister of Sarawak in Malaysia? What other measures are being taken to identify and sanction those large international logging companies which do not ensure best practice in sustainable logging?
Asked by
Lord St John of Bletso
(Crossbench)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
13 September 2011
The noble Lord talks about a specific case, which I will not refer to. In a more general response, I would like to say to noble Lords that we are ensuring that we respond proactively to the difficulties we are all facing with this issue. The multinational companies that deal in illegal logging will find that the penalties for this will be severe. That is the agreement we are trying to get from all our partner countries so that it is not just a small group of countries that are willing to apply severe penalties, but that the penalties will be severe at every border that illegal timber comes through. It is about greater partnership but it is also about recognising that we are only a small cog when it comes to dealing with these issues and it is really for the whole world to respond collectively.
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623-4
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Is my noble friend aware that the Democratic Republic of Congo officially produces more than half a million cubic metres of timber each year, and illegally produces about the same amount each year? Is she also aware that British technology is now available to the DRC that tracks the entire supply chain of timber from standing forest trees to the wholesale timber market? What action will the Government take, therefore, to help facilitate the DRC Government’s efforts to complete negotiations with the European Union to enter into traceability agreements?
Is my noble friend aware that the Democratic Republic of Congo officially produces more than half a million cubic metres of timber each year, and illegally produces about the same amount each year? Is she also aware that British technology is now available to the DRC that tracks the entire supply chain of timber from standing forest trees to the wholesale timber market? What action will the Government take, therefore, to help facilitate the DRC Government’s efforts to complete negotiations with the European Union to enter into traceability agreements?
Asked by
Lord Chidgey
(Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
13 September 2011
My noble friend is right about Congo. However, as with the previous question, it is about all partner countries being able to respond with severe penalties when they see illegal timber coming through their borders. Of course, the important thing is that these are conversations that continue. They are not had at one conference—it is a continuous conversation at many conferences, and it will arise again at the Durban conference in December.
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My noble friend is right about Congo. However, as with the previous question, it is about all partner countries being able to respond with severe penalties when they see illegal timber coming through their borders. Of course, the important thing is that these are conversations that continue. They are not had at one conference—it is a continuous conversation at many conferences, and it will arise again at the Durban conference in December.
My noble friend is right about Congo. However, as with the previous question, it is about all partner countries being able to respond with severe penalties when they see illegal timber coming through their borders. Of course, the important thing is that these are conversations that continue. They are not had at one conference—it is a continuous conversation at many conferences, and it will arise again at the Durban conference in December.
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Chidgey
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Is my noble friend aware that the Democratic Republic of Congo officially produces more than half a million cubic metres of timber each year, and illegally produces about the same amount each year? Is she also aware that British technology is now available to the DRC that tracks the entire supply chain of timber from standing forest trees to the wholesale timber market? What action will the Government take, therefore, to help facilitate the DRC Government’s efforts to complete negotiations with the European Union to enter into traceability agreements?
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, more than 1 billion people depend in varying degrees on the forests for their livelihoods with many more depending on the ecosystem services they provide. Some 350 million people who live within or adjacent to dense forests depend on them to a high degree for subsistence and income. Degradation and deforestation cause a loss of between $2 trillion and $4.5 trillion per year in ecosystems goods and services.
My Lords, more than 1 billion people depend in varying degrees on the forests for their livelihoods with many more depending on the ecosystem services they provide. Some 350 million people who live within or adjacent to dense forests depend on them to a high degree for subsistence and income. Degradation and deforestation cause a loss of between $2 trillion and $4.5 trillion per year in ecosystems goods and services.
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Eden of Winton
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what is their latest assessment of the effect of logging operations in the rainforests of Africa, Asia and South America; and what is the likely impact on the indigenous human, plant and animal life.
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c622
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, does the Minister appreciate that one of the largest single sources of global emissions is actually deforestation, often illegal logging? The British Government took the initiative a number of years ago to push for reforestation, and we are one of the few countries in the world with experience of it. Can we have an assurance from the Government that they will redouble their effort for reforestation as well as stamping out illegal logging?
My Lords, does the Minister appreciate that one of the largest single sources of global emissions is actually deforestation, often illegal logging? The British Government took the initiative a number of years ago to push for reforestation, and we are one of the few countries in the world with experience of it. Can we have an assurance from the Government that they will redouble their effort for reforestation as well as stamping out illegal logging?
Asked by
Lord Clark of Windermere
(Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
13 September 2011
The noble Lord is absolutely right. It is about working with other countries, which we are doing aggressively. We have worked very closely to get all our partner countries to sign off the new EU timber regulation that came into force last December. It is about being persistent in our argument. I agree with the noble Lord that it is really a devastation to all countries if we do not tackle this issue right now.
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Does my noble friend agree that biodiversity and loss of species are even more important than climate change? With a huge amount of resources and tremendous effort, it is possible eventually to reverse climate change, but once a species is lost, it is gone for ever, and the damage could be irreparable. Does she also agree that this is not just a matter of polar bears, tigers or even red squirrels, but that many of the boring little unsexy species that could be lost by deforestation could actually be valuable to human life and existence?
Does my noble friend agree that biodiversity and loss of species are even more important than climate change? With a huge amount of resources and tremendous effort, it is possible eventually to reverse climate change, but once a species is lost, it is gone for ever, and the damage could be irreparable. Does she also agree that this is not just a matter of polar bears, tigers or even red squirrels, but that many of the boring little unsexy species that could be lost by deforestation could actually be valuable to human life and existence?
Asked by
Lord Blencathra
(Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
13 September 2011
My noble friend has put the case perfectly for why we need to work incredibly hard. That is why the UK has supported developing countries to participate in the United Nations study on the economics of ecosystems and biodiversity which estimates, as I have said, that the huge financial cost is immense but the cost to species is even greater, and the initial long-term impact will be on us.
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
The noble Lord is absolutely right. It is about working with other countries, which we are doing aggressively. We have worked very closely to get all our partner countries to sign off the new EU timber regulation that came into force last December. It is about being persistent in our argument. I agree with the noble Lord that it is really a devastation to all countries if we do not tackle this issue right now.
The noble Lord is absolutely right. It is about working with other countries, which we are doing aggressively. We have worked very closely to get all our partner countries to sign off the new EU timber regulation that came into force last December. It is about being persistent in our argument. I agree with the noble Lord that it is really a devastation to all countries if we do not tackle this issue right now.
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Asked by
Lord Clark of Windermere
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, does the Minister appreciate that one of the largest single sources of global emissions is actually deforestation, often illegal logging? The British Government took the initiative a number of years ago to push for reforestation, and we are one of the few countries in the world with experience of it. Can we have an assurance from the Government that they will redouble their effort for reforestation as well as stamping out illegal logging?
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c623
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what is their latest assessment of the effect of logging operations in the rainforests of Africa, Asia and South America; and what is the likely impact on the indigenous human, plant and animal life.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what is their latest assessment of the effect of logging operations in the rainforests of Africa, Asia and South America; and what is the likely impact on the indigenous human, plant and animal life.
Asked by
Lord Eden of Winton
(Conservative)
Answered by
Baroness Verma
(Conservative)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
For answer on
13 September 2011
Answered on
13 September 2011
My Lords, more than 1 billion people depend in varying degrees on the forests for their livelihoods with many more depending on the ecosystem services they provide. Some 350 million people who live within or adjacent to dense forests depend on them to a high degree for subsistence and income. Degradation and deforestation cause a loss of between $2 trillion and $4.5 trillion per year in ecosystems goods and services.
Subjects
Rainforests; Tree felling
Date
13 September 2011
Reference
730 c622
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what representations they have made to the Government of Israel regarding the uprooting of olive trees by troops and Israeli settlers in Deir Istiya in the northern West Bank.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what representations they have made to the Government of Israel regarding the uprooting of olive trees by troops and Israeli settlers in Deir Istiya in the northern West Bank.
Asked by
Baroness Brinton
(Liberal Democrat)
Answered by
Lord Howell of Guildford
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
11 August 2011
We are aware of the incident that the noble Baroness mentions. This is important both because olive groves are the sole source of income for many subsistence farmers and olive trees are a national symbol for Palestinians. We have raised our concerns about such incidents with the Co-ordinator of Government Activities in the Territories and the Israel Defence Forces. Our staff in the consulate general in Jerusalem will continue to do so.
Notes
Answer received between Monday 1 August 2011 and Monday 8 August 2011.
Subjects
Tree felling; Israel; Palestine; West Bank; Olives
Date
11 August 2011
Reference
11459; 729 c469WA
House
House of Lords
Westminster Hall adjournment debate on the effects of larch disease on forests.
Westminster Hall adjournment debate on the effects of larch disease on forests.
Lead member
Neil Parish
Answering member
James Paice
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Adjournment debates
Subjects
Compensation; Diseases; Disease control; Forests; Tree felling; Trees; South West
Date
3 May 2011
Reference
527 c243-50WH
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
House
House of Commons
The evidence from the Department of Agriculture and Rural Development is clear. The disease is present in 200 hectares across nine woodlands and 4 hectares of private woodland. It is a disaster for the woodland in Northern Ireland, and it is prevalent in the Republic of Ireland as well.
The evidence from the Department of Agriculture and Rural Development is clear. The disease is present in 200 hectares across nine woodlands and 4 hectares of private woodland. It is a disaster for the woodland in Northern Ireland, and it is prevalent in the Republic of Ireland as well.
Member
Jim Shannon
(Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Compensation; Diseases; Disease control; Forests; Tree felling; Trees; South West
Date
3 May 2011
Reference
527 c245WH
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
House
House of Commons
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. He is right. It is said that such diseases often breed better in the south-west of England due to the climate, but it is amazing how, over the years, they gradually move north. Is the disease present in Northern Ireland at the...
I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. He is right. It is said that such diseases often breed better in the south-west of England due to the climate, but it is amazing how, over the years, they gradually move north. Is the disease present in Northern Ireland at the...
Member
Neil Parish
(Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Compensation; Diseases; Disease control; Forests; Tree felling; Trees; South West
Date
3 May 2011
Reference
527 c245WH
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
House
House of Commons
May I back that up by talking about the experience of my constituent, Mr Rob White, who has lost 20 hectares of his Japanese larch under a compulsory felling notice? He is on a planted ancient woodland site and only 50% to 70% of his replanting costs would be covered—even...
May I back that up by talking about the experience of my constituent, Mr Rob White, who has lost 20 hectares of his Japanese larch under a compulsory felling notice? He is on a planted ancient woodland site and only 50% to 70% of his replanting costs would be covered—even...
Member
Sarah Wollaston
(Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Compensation; Diseases; Disease control; Forests; Tree felling; Trees; South West
Date
3 May 2011
Reference
527 c244-5WH
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
House
House of Commons
It is very nice to have this debate under your chairmanship, Ms Dorries, and it is nice to see the Minister with responsibility for agriculture here. There is an insidious disease hitting the south-west that, if swept under the carpet, could decimate some of our most treasured ancient woodland, and...
It is very nice to have this debate under your chairmanship, Ms Dorries, and it is nice to see the Minister with responsibility for agriculture here. There is an insidious disease hitting the south-west that, if swept under the carpet, could decimate some of our most treasured ancient woodland, and...
Member
Neil Parish
(Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Compensation; Diseases; Disease control; Forests; Tree felling; Trees; South West
Date
3 May 2011
Reference
527 c243-4WH
Chamber / Committee
Westminster Hall
House
House of Commons