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We strongly supported amendments in Grand Committee to provide a framework for family and friends carers, and we are happy to do so again today. It is time that we gave family and friends carers better support, particularly when they may be taking on more than one child and—as we...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c52-3
House
House of Lords

Children and Young Persons Bill (HL). Lords Committee stage on Recommitment. Amendment 10 disagreed to on division (127 to 105). Part 1 of 2 records.

Department
Department for Children, Schools and Families
Type
Debates on bills; Committee of the Whole House (HL)
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c13-23; 699 c37-81
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for his reply and all other noble Lords who have taken part in the debate. The Minister concentrated on providing the IRO with the skills that they need, but I want to concentrate on providing the child with the voice that they need to communicate, not...

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Baroness Walmsley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c80
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 19: 19: Clause 11, page 8, leave out lines 16 to 21 The noble Lord said: I shall speak also to Amendments Nos. 36, 38, 43, 44, 46, 47, 54, 60 and 64. The amendments have no substantive effect but will change the various references to the...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c80-1
House
House of Lords

Speaking from first-hand experience and as president of Mencap—and I know a great number of children with communication problems—I warmly support the amendment.

Member
Lord Rix (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c79
House
House of Lords

I was sorry to disappoint the noble Baroness, Lady Howarth of Breckland, but I spoke on this matter at length in Grand Committee. I would like the Government to look at this problem. There are undoubtedly some special needs children with statements where all that is needed is some discipline...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c79
House
House of Lords

A statutory duty is placed on local authorities to ascertain, and give due consideration to, the wishes and feelings of children whom they look after before taking any decision that affects them. It is clearly and necessarily implicit in that duty that where the child has a communication impairment, the...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c79-80
House
House of Lords

I was thinking that we were on Report and that I could not speak to the amendment again, but then I realised that we are in Committee again. I realised that I had not turned over a page, and it is really quite an important page. I was going to...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c53-4
House
House of Lords

I, too, enthusiastically support the amendment; the case has been put very trenchantly by the noble Baroness, Lady Hollis, and the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, drawing on their vast experience from different fields. The rigidity of the present arrangements makes it extremely difficult for very worthy and very...

Member
Lord Elystan-Morgan (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c53
House
House of Lords

I am not moving Amendment No. 50 at this stage, because it was wrongly grouped. I am sorry.

Member
Baroness Meacher (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c54
House
House of Lords

We fully share the concerns expressed to enable as many children as possible to remain at home with their birth family and to enable more children who cannot live at home to be cared for by family and friends. Similarly, we share a commitment to improve the support available to...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c54
House
House of Lords

Supplementary to that, will individual local authorities find themselves making very different decisions so that whether a person receives these benefits through the local authority will be a matter of a postcode lottery? If there is a danger of that happening, will the Minister look at what guidance will be...

Member
Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c57
House
House of Lords

I am very grateful to my noble friend for that response and his promise of a letter to me. I simply ask him to take on board that family or kinship carers who take on responsibility are entitled to the same benefits and support as parents, including child benefit and...

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Baroness Hollis of Heigham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c56
House
House of Lords

I wondered why the noble Baroness was in her place but did not speak to her amendment. I thought that she might expect me to give a reply anyway, since it was in this group. However, she has reduced my task significantly because the next few pages of my speaking...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c55-6
House
House of Lords

Will the amendment to Section 17 promoted by the Government include non-kinship? I gave the example of a friend who takes over the care of a child. Will the deletion of exceptional circumstances, making it possible for maintenance to be given to a family, also apply to friends who take...

Member
Baroness Butler-Sloss (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c57
House
House of Lords

I fully take on board the point made by my noble friend. I shall certainly look into the issues that she raised and report back to her and other noble Lords on the current arrangements and on any plans that we have to improve the efficiency of transfers of payments...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c56-7
House
House of Lords

In the mean time, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 12 not moved.] [Amendment No. 13 had been withdrawn from the Marshalled List.] On Question, Whether Clause 7 shall stand part of the Bill?

Member
Baroness Massey of Darwen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c58
House
House of Lords

I am always happy to meet my noble friend and other noble Lords who have particular issues to raise, and I should be very glad to have such a meeting.

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c58
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for his response, which I think included a number of good things. I also thank those who have spoken in this debate passionately and with great experience. The number of supplementary questions will indicate that there are still some issues about which I, for one, am...

Member
Baroness Massey of Darwen (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c57-8
House
House of Lords

I will certainly look at the matter that the noble Baroness has raised.

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 February 2008
Reference
699 c57
House
House of Lords