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My Lords, I do not know whether I gave a good answer or not, then. Obviously, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran. We can have a detailed debate in Committee; we are not limited in that. I fully accept and confirm once again that, if all...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c367
House
House of Lords

I thank the Minister for his brief response. I know that we have been over this ground. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendments Nos. 21 to 25 not moved.] Clause 21 agreed to. Clauses 22 and 23 agreed to. Clause 24 [Parliamentary procedure for...

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Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c419-20
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House of Lords

I thank the Minister for his earlier comments—that is a formal statement. In the light of that, I drop my opposition to the Question whether Clause 18 should stand part of the Bill. Clause 18 agreed to. Clauses 19 and 20 agreed to. [Amendments Nos. 17 and 18 not moved.]...

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Lord Trimble (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c418
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House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 20: "Page 18, line 9, leave out ““In””" The noble Lord said: I am sorry that the amendment has come at this time of the evening. I would have liked to have had a big Division and won it. This is one of the worst parts of...

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Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c418-9
House
House of Lords

I hear what the noble Viscount says. I realised that there were two questions, and I have answered two questions. I shall give more detail to point to the relevant part of the draft legislation. I appreciate that there are two distinct issues: one is the reconstitution of the partnerships...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c417-8
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House of Lords

If noble Lords will forgive a little levity, it would be handy for some people to do an examination to see if that actually matches the parliamentary record for the length of an intervention. Or have there been even longer ones?

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Lord Trimble (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c411
House
House of Lords

I have a number of amendments in this grouping—Amendments Nos. 31, 32, 33, 35 and 37, about which I shall speak briefly. Those are about district policing partnerships—DPPs— which have the job of holding the police to account on local issues. They are composed of a majority of political members...

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Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c411-2
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House of Lords

I am grateful to the Minister for that thoughtful and comprehensive response to my amendments. I am also grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Trimble, for recognising the problems that Alliance had with designations in the past and no doubt will have also in the future. I have spoken at...

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Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c406
House
House of Lords

I support Amendments Nos. 6 and 7 of the noble Lord, Lord Trimble. When speaking to Amendment No. 7, he brought to our attention an extraordinary state of affairs. The Committee should thank him most sincerely for having managed to winkle out what has been going on in Northern Ireland...

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Baroness Harris of Richmond (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c390-2
House
House of Lords

I support the amendment. I have spoken from this Dispatch Box on a number of occasions about the handling of political party funds for Northern Ireland and the fact that the position is not similar to that in the rest of the United Kingdom. It is vital that the flow...

Member
Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c371
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I beg to move that the House do now resolve itself into Committee on this Bill. Moved accordingly, and, on Question, Motion agreed to. House in Committee accordingly. [The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN OF COMMITTEES (Lord Boston of Faversham) in the Chair.] Clauses 1 and 2 agreed to. Clause 3...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c369
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 1: "Page 3, line 4, at end insert—""(4) The final disapplication period for the purposes of sections 50 to 69 of, and Schedule 6 to, the Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act 2000 (c. 41), as amended by the Northern Ireland (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2006 (c. 33), shall...

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Lord Trimble (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c369-71
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House of Lords

Clearly we are in a different environment. I understand why the noble Lord wanted to intervene and what he said is interesting. I simply reflect on the fact that he pronounced proudly that the Democratic Unionist Party speaks for the unionists. I would observe only that its speaking for unionists...

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Lord Trimble (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c411
House
House of Lords

I support the amendments of the noble Baroness, Lady Harris. It is worth while looking at the numbers and the background of the DPPs, especially the independents. I was on the committee of the Policing Board. I would not say that we worked it out, but we were in charge...

Member
Viscount Brookeborough (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c412-3
House
House of Lords

I have one amendment in this group, Amendment No. 18, which also refers to DPPs. Having argued against the setting up of DPPs a few years ago, it is fair to say that I was largely wrong and that they have proved to be very successful in the Province. To...

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Lord Glentoran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c412
House
House of Lords

With all due respect, and the Minister may have something that says entirely different, at any time the Policing Board only operated within the directions of the Government and within the legislation that was laid down. It was never within our power, as far as I am concerned, to alter...

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Viscount Brookeborough (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c413
House
House of Lords

At the outset, given the points that the noble Viscount has just made, I make it clear that draft legislation provides that the decision to reconstitute a district policing partnership is a matter for the Policing Board. The issue must be done at that level. I fully accept what has...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c413
House
House of Lords

Perhaps either I did not hear clearly or I do not fully understand. The noble Baroness, Lady Harris, and I were saying that, should the Assembly go ahead in the mean time—and it will be well ahead of the reform of the RPA, which will of course mean a total...

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Viscount Brookeborough (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c416-7
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House of Lords

I will take advice on this; there will be time because I have only just stood up. The Policing Board has issued a press release. My response to it is: "““The draft legislation””—" that is this Bill— "““provides that the decision to reconstitute a district policing partnership is a matter...

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Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c414-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I feel that I approach the Bill in much the same temper as the noble Lord, Lord Smith of Clifton; I have mixed views about it. It contains, as we shall see later in the day, some clauses and provisions that are plain bad. Others are there, I...

Member
Lord Trimble (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 November 2006
Reference
687 c353-6
House
House of Lords