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I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time.

The threat that we face from terrorism is serious, and it is growing. The Security Service believes that since the attacks on 7 July 2005, about 40 terrorist plots have been disrupted. It is thanks to the hard...

Member
Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 cc207-8
House
House of Commons

The Home Secretary referred to the Government decision to replace control orders. One of the decisions she made when she did that was to remove the relocation powers within control orders. That was a decision of choice, not one forced on her by the courts. This Bill reverses that judgment...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c208
House
House of Commons

I would say two things to the right hon. Gentleman. First, as I have just been outlining, we face today a different threat background from that we faced in recent years. Also, if he looks carefully at the Bill, he will see that we are not simply reintroducing a power...

Member
Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c208
House
House of Commons

Is the right hon. Lady satisfied that we now have enough interception powers, or not?

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Derek Twigg (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c208
House
House of Commons

If the hon. Gentleman is referring to the power to issue warrants on companies who offer services in the UK but who are based overseas or the holding of whose data is based overseas, we addressed precisely that issue in the legislation introduced in the Data

Retention and Investigatory Powers...

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Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 cc208-9
House
House of Commons

I am glad the Home Secretary just mentioned tackling the terrorists’ narrative. Does she have in mind in that respect not only taking down extremist postings on the internet, for example, but promoting a counter-narrative that exposes the fallacies of the terrorist narrative?

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Julian Lewis (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c209
House
House of Commons

I commend my hon. Friend because he has been resolute in promoting this aspect of dealing with terrorism for some time, and he is absolutely right that it is important to promote that counter-narrative, but I think it is also important to do something else: to take a further step...

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Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c209
House
House of Commons

The Home Secretary is right to say that progress has been made during the past year, but will she help me on one point? Where a British citizen has been found to be involved in terrorist-related activities in a foreign country, is it right that we will no longer seek...

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Keith Vaz (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c209
House
House of Commons

No. Under the temporary exclusion power in the Bill, when someone who has been involved in terrorist-related activities—that will be considered on a case-by-case basis—returns home to the UK, that will happen on what I would describe as our terms. In other words, that return will be managed so that...

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Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c209
House
House of Commons

The Home Secretary has just said that we need a counter-extremism strategy. May I ask her when that might be available? I remind her that the Department for Communities and Local Government was charged with producing just such a strategy three years ago, but it has not done so. My...

Member
Hazel Blears (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c209
House
House of Commons

As I have indicated, the Home Office is leading on the extremism strategy. We will be working on that, but the right hon. Lady should not expect to see anything published before the end of the year. On the

wider issue, when we came into power, we made two changes...

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Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c209
House
House of Commons

May I press the Home Secretary about the temporary exclusion orders that she wants to have the power to exact? They would, in effect, result in the exile—albeit short term and temporary—of British citizens, in many cases, to other countries. All history suggests that such action further radicalises people and...

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c210
House
House of Commons

I caution the hon. Gentleman about the terminology that he uses in relation to the power. He has used the term “exile”, but the proposal is not about saying that people cannot return. It is possible for people to return, but they will return on the basis that we have...

Member
Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 cc210-1
House
House of Commons

Will the Home Secretary clarify something so that we can understand the implications of the legislation? What are the circumstances in which she would not grant a permit to return?

Member
Yvette Cooper (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c211
House
House of Commons

These matters will be looked at on a case-by-case basis. The point is to be able to manage the return of individuals who have been involved in terrorist-related activity abroad, and we are discussing how the power would be operated practically with a number of other Governments, as I have...

Member
Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c211
House
House of Commons

I confess that I am by no means convinced of the legality of what is being suggested under temporary exclusion orders, which will, no doubt, be known in due course as TEOs, given our enthusiasm for acronyms. What is the position of someone who declines to accept conditions of return...

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Lord Campbell of Pittenweem (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c211
House
House of Commons

They are not de facto stateless. It is open to somebody to return, but the proposal is that they would be returning on our basis, under documents that would be issued by the Government, and therefore we would be aware of their return, be able to manage that return and,...

Member
Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c212
House
House of Commons

I understand the system that my right hon. Friend is putting in place of managed return, but what is not clear in the Bill is the system that will be present to enable that managed return requirement to be challenged. I wonder whether she can help the House on that...

Member
Dominic Grieve (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c212
House
House of Commons

There will be a form of challenge available to an individual under judicial review. We will also have to notify the individual that action is being taken against them, so that they are aware that the measure is being put in place.

Member
Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c212
House
House of Commons

On a point that was made earlier, if an individual has the right to challenge how they are managed—I think the right hon. Lady said that it would be by means of judicial review—can we ensure that they have legal aid to do that?

Member
Yasmin Qureshi (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 December 2014
Reference
589 c212
House
House of Commons