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Select Committee reports; House of Commons papers; House of Lords papers; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Joint Committee on the Draft House of Lords Reform Bill
Date
26 March 2012
Reference
HC 1313 2010-12; HL 284 2010-12
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

House of Lords (Amendment) Bill (HL). Lords third reading debate agreed to on question. Bill passed and sent to the Commons.

Lead member
Lord Steel of Aikwood
Type
Debates on bills
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1542-8
House
House of Lords

1: Clause 2, page 1, line 14, leave out subsection (2)

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1542
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I agree with what my noble friend Lord Steel has just said and will speak to Amendment 2. I hope that is the right procedure. May I explain, in just a few seconds, why I am anxious that service both in the Armed Forces and in the Diplomatic...

Member
Lord Trefgarne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1542-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will speak to Amendments 1 and 3. I will not press Amendment 1; I will seek leave to withdraw it in favour of Amendment 2 in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Trefgarne, and Amendment 3. In the original Bill, we agreed on Report to adopt...

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1542
House
House of Lords

I am happy to send it privately, but, as I mentioned the names of the Ministers concerned, it is not for circulation. I made it quite clear that these were informal conversations; they are not in any way a government commitment. But I put forward the same suggestions as I...

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1548
House
House of Lords

It could be a redacted version.

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1548
House
House of Lords

The answer to my noble friend Lord Trefgarne is that I wrote to the Deputy Prime Minister after Report, but it was obvious when he appeared before the noble Lord, Lord Richard, that he had not seen the letter. I am afraid that it disappeared into the bureaucracy—I have had...

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1548
House
House of Lords

My Lords, if the noble Lord, Lord Steel, wrote to Mr Clegg, would he be kind enough to send me a copy of the letter?

Member
Lord Richard (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1548
House
House of Lords

I, too, am grateful to my noble friend Lord Steel for his constructive response to some of the points that we have sought to make at various points during the passage of the Bill. On Report, he referred in some detail to his consultation with various unnamed Ministers about the...

Member
Lord Trefgarne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1547-8
House
House of Lords

I take that as a yes—that I will get the letter. I thank the noble Lord. Bill passed and sent to the Commons.

Member
Lord Richard (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1548
House
House of Lords

You could scratch out the names.

Member
Lord Trefgarne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1548
House
House of Lords

Very well, but I trust the noble Lord, Lord Richard. I will happily send him a copy.

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1548
House
House of Lords

5: Clause 4, page 2, line 10, leave out ““this Part”” and insert ““section 3”” 6: Clause 4, leave out Clause 4 Amendments 5 and 6 agreed. Clause 5 : Conviction of serious criminal offence Amendment 7 Clause 5 : Conviction of serious criminal offence Amendment 7 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1543
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendments 4, 5, 6 and 9, which are grouped together, are drafting amendments as a result of the discussions on Report. I do not think that they are of any great significance. I beg to move. Amendment 4 agreed. Clause 4 : Right to vote and stand for...

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1543
House
House of Lords

4: Clause 2, page 2, line 5, leave out ““this Part”” and insert ““sections 1 to 3””

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1543
House
House of Lords

8: After Clause 5, insert the following new Clause— ““Expulsion (1) Standing orders of the House of Lords may make provision under which the House of Lords may by resolution expel a member of the House of Lords. (2) A person expelled under this section— (a) ceases to be a...

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1544
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for tabling this amendment. I also raised this point. It is perhaps auspicious that we are dealing with the House of Lords (Amendment) Bill in the name of my noble friend on St David's Day. Amendment 7 agreed. Amendment 8 Moved by

Member
Earl of Caithness (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1544
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendment 7 was tabled following the discussion we had on Report—notably the point raised by the noble Viscount, Lord Astor, who was concerned that persons sitting as Members of this House could be subject to sentences in other countries which we did not recognise as being proper sentences....

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1544
House
House of Lords

3: Clause 2, page 2, line 2, after ““reasonable”” insert ““, for example undertaking other public service,”” Amendment 3 agreed. Amendment 4 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 March 2012
Reference
735 c1543
House
House of Lords