I have the greatest admiration and respect for the noble Earl, Lord Howe, and the principles underlying the amendment he has proposed so elegantly are unexceptionable. My only concern relates to the fact that, as he has suggested, to implement a statute along these lines might ultimately be very difficult...

I have the greatest admiration and respect for the noble Earl, Lord Howe, and the principles underlying the amendment he has proposed so elegantly are unexceptionable. My only concern relates to the fact that, as he has suggested, to implement a statute along these lines might ultimately be very difficult...

Amendment 86 86: After Clause 19, insert the following new Clause— "Purchase of tobacco on behalf of children After section 7(2) of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 (c. 12) (sale of tobacco, etc, to persons under (eighteen)) insert— "(2A) A person commits an offence if he buys or...

Amendment 86 86: After Clause 19, insert the following new Clause— "Purchase of tobacco on behalf of children After section 7(2) of the Children and Young Persons Act 1933 (c. 12) (sale of tobacco, etc, to persons under (eighteen)) insert— "(2A) A person commits an offence if he buys or...

I know what the noble Lord is talking about. The answer is £2,500. I did not recall it straight away and I apologise to him for that.

I know what the noble Lord is talking about. The answer is £2,500. I did not recall it straight away and I apologise to him for that.

Could the noble Lord remind the Committee of the location of vending machines? Is it not a fact that 99 per cent of them are located in licensed premises?

Could the noble Lord remind the Committee of the location of vending machines? Is it not a fact that 99 per cent of them are located in licensed premises?

May I come back to that in a moment? The figure is not quite as high as 99 per cent, but it is substantial. That is partly why we have a muddle here because children actually do find it relatively easy to get access to vending machines. As I have...

May I come back to that in a moment? The figure is not quite as high as 99 per cent, but it is substantial. That is partly why we have a muddle here because children actually do find it relatively easy to get access to vending machines. As I have...

I am not disguising the fact that vending machine manufacturers would suffer under this amendment but I do not think that small businesses would, and I do not think that the tobacco industry can say whether it would suffer under the amendment.

I am not disguising the fact that vending machine manufacturers would suffer under this amendment but I do not think that small businesses would, and I do not think that the tobacco industry can say whether it would suffer under the amendment.

Does the noble Lord agree that there is nothing particularly unique about the shape of a tobacco packet? One can think of loads of products that could equally easily be sold from those machines. There is nothing special about them being tobacco vending machines; they are vending machines that could...

Does the noble Lord agree that there is nothing particularly unique about the shape of a tobacco packet? One can think of loads of products that could equally easily be sold from those machines. There is nothing special about them being tobacco vending machines; they are vending machines that could...

There is no point in having a debate in Committee when we both refer to the same survey and one refers to returns of 227 per cent which must be apportioned—the noble Baroness is a scientist—down to 100 per cent. Therefore it is 7.5 per cent. Furthermore, is she not...

There is no point in having a debate in Committee when we both refer to the same survey and one refers to returns of 227 per cent which must be apportioned—the noble Baroness is a scientist—down to 100 per cent. Therefore it is 7.5 per cent. Furthermore, is she not...

I, too, support the amendment. I always find it slightly illogical that we have reached a point where there is no smoking in public places, yet still there are vending machines in hotels, restaurants and pubs where you cannot smoke what you have bought from those vending machines. That means...

I, too, support the amendment. I always find it slightly illogical that we have reached a point where there is no smoking in public places, yet still there are vending machines in hotels, restaurants and pubs where you cannot smoke what you have bought from those vending machines. That means...

I correct the noble Baroness. It is perfectly permissible to smoke in hotel rooms if the hotel designates certain rooms as smoking rooms.

I correct the noble Baroness. It is perfectly permissible to smoke in hotel rooms if the hotel designates certain rooms as smoking rooms.

Whenever I am able to escape from your Lordships’ House, I thoroughly enjoy playing a game of golf. I know four golf clubs in north Northumberland where there are vending machines in the clubhouse, freely accessible to the children who come and play golf. There is no way any control...

Whenever I am able to escape from your Lordships’ House, I thoroughly enjoy playing a game of golf. I know four golf clubs in north Northumberland where there are vending machines in the clubhouse, freely accessible to the children who come and play golf. There is no way any control...

The noble Lord, Lord Crisp, said that he had seen the report in the Irish Times. The issue was that vending machines were being changed to operate with tokens. The study noted that in 79 per cent of premises where the vending machines were token operated, thereby requiring the purchaser...

The noble Lord, Lord Crisp, said that he had seen the report in the Irish Times. The issue was that vending machines were being changed to operate with tokens. The study noted that in 79 per cent of premises where the vending machines were token operated, thereby requiring the purchaser...

I have also added my name to nearly all the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Crisp, and I commend him for the way in which he introduced the amendment earlier. This is one of those cases where the Committee wishes to go a little further than the Government...

I have also added my name to nearly all the amendments tabled by the noble Lord, Lord Crisp, and I commend him for the way in which he introduced the amendment earlier. This is one of those cases where the Committee wishes to go a little further than the Government...

I shall speak to my Amendment 90, which is grouped here. I view the Government’s proposals on vending machines in a very different light from those relating to point-of-sale displays. There is a real issue regarding vending machines, which is that young people frequently have access to them. It is...

I shall speak to my Amendment 90, which is grouped here. I view the Government’s proposals on vending machines in a very different light from those relating to point-of-sale displays. There is a real issue regarding vending machines, which is that young people frequently have access to them. It is...

Before we go further, I forgot that I was a retired member of UNITE when I quoted from its brief, which I believe other Members of the Committee have received.

Before we go further, I forgot that I was a retired member of UNITE when I quoted from its brief, which I believe other Members of the Committee have received.

Bearing in mind the debate we have just had, I can be relatively brief on my amendment. It states that vending machines should be regulated, not prohibited. I have two key points to add to what was said in that debate. First, I, too, will welcome the day when no...

Bearing in mind the debate we have just had, I can be relatively brief on my amendment. It states that vending machines should be regulated, not prohibited. I have two key points to add to what was said in that debate. First, I, too, will welcome the day when no...

I suggest the insertion of a new clause, as is pretty clearly stated in the Marshalled List. There have been a lot of comments today about piecemeal legislation, with things happening one year, then a little bit of legislation the next, and so on. Many feel that legislation has already...

I suggest the insertion of a new clause, as is pretty clearly stated in the Marshalled List. There have been a lot of comments today about piecemeal legislation, with things happening one year, then a little bit of legislation the next, and so on. Many feel that legislation has already...

I shall indeed look at what I said and what the noble Lord said, and hopefully we will agree at least on the accuracy of what we said. Clause 20 agreed. Clause 21 : Power to prohibit or restrict sales from vending machines: Northern Ireland Amendments 97 to 103 not...

I shall indeed look at what I said and what the noble Lord said, and hopefully we will agree at least on the accuracy of what we said. Clause 20 agreed. Clause 21 : Power to prohibit or restrict sales from vending machines: Northern Ireland Amendments 97 to 103 not...

I think that we forget too easily some of the basic facts of this market. The situation now is that we are down to 21 per cent of people smoking; we are down to the lowest level of young people smoking, at 6 per cent; those in the 21 per...

I think that we forget too easily some of the basic facts of this market. The situation now is that we are down to 21 per cent of people smoking; we are down to the lowest level of young people smoking, at 6 per cent; those in the 21 per...

I am a regular shopper in the noble Lord’s daughter’s shop, which is a very upmarket, glitzy cookware shop in Bedford. With respect, it is absolutely not relevant to the situation of a small-scale newsagent.

I am a regular shopper in the noble Lord’s daughter’s shop, which is a very upmarket, glitzy cookware shop in Bedford. With respect, it is absolutely not relevant to the situation of a small-scale newsagent.