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Does the right hon. Gentleman agree that an appropriate check on ministerial abuse should be established within the Standing Orders of the Regulatory Reform Committee, to the effect that it should have a clear and unambiguous duty to determine whether something is an inappropriate use of delegated legislation? Is not...

Member
Andrew Miller (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c754
House
House of Commons

I hesitate to make promises about parliamentary time. My hon. Friend will be aware that that matter is not solely under my control. I hope that he will acknowledge, however, that the approach that we have taken so far has been to consult the relevant Select Committee Chairs on these...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c762
House
House of Commons

This issue has been bubbling around during the time my hon. Friend has been dealing with the Bill and before that. For the avoidance of doubt, will he give the House a clear assurance that time will be set aside by the Government to enable us to debate the necessary...

Member
Andrew Miller (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c761-2
House
House of Commons

The amendments deal with an issue that is close to the heart of many right hon. and hon. Members who debated the Bill in its earlier parliamentary stages. They fulfil our commitment, made on Second Reading in the other place, to look again at the criteria for the parliamentary Committees’...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c761
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendment.

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c761
House
House of Commons

By leave of the House, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I should like to clarify this issue for the right hon. Gentleman. The prohibition on an order reducing tax would not stop an order reducing fees, including fees charged by a regulator, for example. Lords amendment agreed to. Lords amendments Nos. 19...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c761
House
House of Commons

As someone who would dearly love to see some taxes abolished, I accept the normal form for doing that. Unfortunately, we have an annual Finance Bill, and it is an increasingly large Bill under this Government. It gives them ample legislative opportunity to make changes to taxes. I would like...

Member
Lord Redwood (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c761
House
House of Commons

Yes, that is correct. I meant that the amendment will allow Committees of either House to exercise their veto. It is vital that we strike the right balance between the order-making powers in the Bill and effective safeguards. We hope that, by framing the veto in this way, we will...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c762
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That this House agrees with the Lords in the said amendment.

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Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c759
House
House of Commons

I really must continue. I believe that in respect of the presentation of the amendment, we have seen a downplaying, if not an ignorance, of the protections in the Bill. Let me deal with the matter of the Scotland Act 1998. It was not exempt from the 2001 Act and...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c755-6
House
House of Commons

We mentioned the matters covered by the amendments earlier, so I shall be brief. Clause 6 restricts the powers in clauses 1 and 2. It prevents an order from imposing or increasing taxation. Concerns were raised on Report in the Commons and in Committee in the other place that, unamended,...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c760
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman has come up with a very good idea. My idea was that the House authorities might like to advise the Chair of the Committee. The Minister might be able to consider a proposition that falls between the two. If we are not to be offered anything like...

Member
Lord Redwood (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c754
House
House of Commons

I will endeavour to be brief in summing up the debate on a couple of key issues. First, as the hon. Members for Somerton and Frome (Mr. Heath) and for Cambridge (David Howarth) said, the courts can be involved even without the amendment. I acknowledged that in my opening remarks,...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c755
House
House of Commons

If the amendment were carried, would it still be possible under this accelerated procedure to abolish a regulator or a regulatory requirement that might include a fee or licence charge?

Member
Lord Redwood (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c760
House
House of Commons

I will come back to the right hon. Gentleman on that matter. The amendment addresses the unwanted consequences that might arise from the transfers that I have just described. It will allow the Treasury to make tax provision by regulations in relation to a transfer of property, rights and liabilities...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c760
House
House of Commons

It is a great pity that once again we do not have enough time to have a civilised, sensible debate about an important underlying issue, over-regulation, and ways in which it might be tackled. I support the Lords amendment, and it is right that there should be as much of...

Member
Lord Redwood (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c763-4
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the Minister for that response, but the Government would have had considerably more credit had they not told us before the Bill was even published that there would be that veto, as he describes it, which they did not put into the Bill when we were...

Member
David Heath (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c763
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is being a trifle unfair. Does not he accept that giving the Committees a statutory veto was an important statement that Parliament has a strong role in such matters? It was a commitment to a proper balance between ministerial recommendation and parliamentary scrutiny. The Government deserve credit...

Member
Pat McFadden (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c762
House
House of Commons

The word ““veto”” is not entirely appropriate in this case. It is a parliamentary caveat, which enables the House to take a decision, but it is nevertheless an important mechanism, which I welcome. I particularly welcome the removal of the criteria that were to have been applied to Committees when...

Member
David Heath (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c762
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister give way?

Member
Andrew Turner (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2006
Reference
451 c748
House
House of Commons