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Select Committee reports; House of Commons papers; House of Lords papers; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Joint Committee on the Draft House of Lords Reform Bill
Date
26 March 2012
Reference
HC 1313 2010-12; HL 284 2010-12
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

My Lords, I take up the cue provided by the noble Lord, Lord Grocott—I think we are within sight of a relatively limited Act that would command consensus all round the House. However, this proposed new clause would take us beyond the possibility of consensus at present. I think it...

Member
Lord Wallace of Saltaire (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c534
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this amendment simply brings the Long Title of the Bill into line with its reduced content. I beg to move. Amendment 310 agreed. Amendment 311 not moved. Amendment 312 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c543
House
House of Lords

136: Clause 5, leave out Clause 5 Amendment 136 agreed. Clause 6 : Guidelines Clause 6 : Guidelines Amendments 137 to 147 not moved. Amendment 148 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c542
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble friend raises an important point. I think that the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Steel, goes some way to give the clarification which he requires. If he is still confused—some of us may be—let us talk about it at Third Reading.

Member
Lord Trefgarne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c543-4
House
House of Lords

It is the simple matter that if the Long Title is wrong, it is wrong. Is it wrong or is it right?

Member
Lord Selsdon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c544
House
House of Lords

It is right now.

Member
Lord Trefgarne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c544
House
House of Lords

It is right. That is all I need to know. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 312 withdrawn. Amendment 312A Moved by

Member
Lord Selsdon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c544
House
House of Lords

314: In the Title, line 6, leave out ““and for connected purposes””

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c544
House
House of Lords

312A: In the Title, line 2, leave out ““to restrict membership of the House of Lords by virtue of hereditary peerage; to”” Amendment 312A agreed. Amendment 313 not moved. Amendment 314 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c544
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is an important alteration to the Long Title for the following reason. We have talked already about what happens when the Bill goes to the other place. Removing the words ““and for connected purposes”” means that the Speaker in the other place will find it much easier...

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c544
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in answer to my noble friend Lord Caithness, no, the provisions in the Bill are definitely not retrospective. They start from the time of Royal Assent, if we ever get to that stage. On the amendment itself, I entirely take the point of the noble Earl, Lord Erroll....

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c531-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I wonder whether it might not be better if I withdrew this amendment, talked to my noble friend and came back at Third Reading—I see the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, nodding—with amendments that were more tightly drawn. I think that everyone understand the point I...

Member
Earl of Caithness (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c532
House
House of Lords

If I can help my noble friend, my recollection is that the Constitutional Reform and Governance Bill, must of which was lost in the wash-up at the end of the previous Parliament, had a provision to meet the very point that he is making. I suspect that if we look...

Member
Lord Norton of Louth (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c532
House
House of Lords

114: Clause 4, leave out Clause 4 Amendment 114 agreed. Clause 5 : Nominees to meet specific criteria Clause 5 : Nominees to meet specific criteria Amendments 115 to 135 not moved. Amendment 136 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c541-2
House
House of Lords

94: Clause 2, leave out Clause 2 Amendment 94 agreed. Clause 3 : Commission to determine rules and procedures Clause 3 : Commission to determine rules and procedures Amendments 95 to 99 not moved. Amendment 100 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c541
House
House of Lords

100: Clause 3, leave out Clause 3 Amendment 100 agreed. Amendment 101 not moved. Clause 4 : Proposals for new peers Clause 4 : Proposals for new peers Amendments 102 to 113 not moved. Amendment 114 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c541
House
House of Lords

24: Clause 1, leave out Clause 1 Amendment 24 agreed. Amendments 25 and 26 not moved. Clause 2 : Commission membership Clause 2 : Commission membership Amendments 27 to 93 not moved. Amendment 94 Moved by

Member
Lord Steel of Aikwood (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c541
House
House of Lords

One of the things that I learnt in my youth is the saying, which I am not sure is parliamentary language, ““Quit while you’re winning””. I think that we should, and not debate it further. My experience in this House is that often when one of us speaks, intending to...

Member
Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c540-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am sure that when other Members of your Lordships’ House who have experience of Fridays in the other place looked at the Marshalled List today, they thought that we were in for a similar sort of experience. I know that my noble friend Lord Steel of Aikwood...

Member
Lord Tyler (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 February 2012
Reference
735 c539-40
House
House of Lords