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Policing Protocol Order 2012 (SI 2011/2744). Lords debate on a motion of regret that the order has not been subject to a robust consultation process, thereby increasing the risk of politicising policing decisions through a failure to protect the operational independence of the police. Motion withdrawn.

Lead member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath
Answering member
Lord Henley
Department
Home Office
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1109-21
House
House of Lords

My Lords, since the House viewed and debated the draft protocol, we now have in front of us the instrument, which has been subject to further consultations. I am very aware that the decision to put it on a statutory basis was influenced by representations made by Members of your...

Member
Baroness Browning (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1111-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, when I spoke at Second Reading of the Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill on 27 April last year, I described the Bill as a crucial step towards a thoroughly modernised police service. I did not say that the Bill would in itself produce that; I described it...

Member
Lord Dear (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1113-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, noble Lords will be aware of the concerns on this side of the House about the introduction of elected police commissioners and the risk of politicisation of our police forces. Rather like the NHS reforms, the Government are bizarrely set to draw a service up by its roots...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1109-11
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I appreciate that the motivation of the noble Lord, Lord Hunt, may be a fear of the democratic mandate that the PCC will have but, having said that, I am grateful to him for giving us the opportunity both to have a break from the Welfare Reform Bill...

Member
Lord Henley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1117-20
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Henley, for his response to this statutory instrument debate and his assiduous attention to detail, which we all welcome. The noble Lord, Lord Imbert, put it so well when he talked about the reputation of the British police, which is of course...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1120-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, you will be relieved to know that my contribution on the Motion will be very brief. I am grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Hunt of Kings Heath, for having secured the time for this debate. I will not go over the ground that he so ably and...

Member
Lord Imbert (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1115-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was a little surprised when I saw the terms of the Motion because having lived through the Bill, as other noble Lords did, it seemed that the issue of a protocol was consulted almost into the ground. However, I realise that there may be a distinction between...

Member
Baroness Hamwee (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1116-7
House
House of Lords

That this House regrets that the order has not been subject to a robust consultation process, thereby increasing the risk of politicising policing decisions through a failure to protect the operational independence of the police.

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 January 2012
Reference
734 c1109
House
House of Lords