Having spoken so eloquently and rightly about Channel 4, will the hon. Gentleman say a few words about the new powers for the Secretary of State to vary the public service licence obligations of Channels 3 and 5?

Having spoken so eloquently and rightly about Channel 4, will the hon. Gentleman say a few words about the new powers for the Secretary of State to vary the public service licence obligations of Channels 3 and 5?

Given the hon. Gentleman's desire to move to DAB plus, what does he suggest the 8 million people in this country who have bought very expensive DAB radios should do?

Given the hon. Gentleman's desire to move to DAB plus, what does he suggest the 8 million people in this country who have bought very expensive DAB radios should do?

The hon. Gentleman will have seen my hon. Friend the Member for West Bromwich, East (Mr. Watson) and his comrades shaking their heads when he asked whether they agreed that there was significant loss, which was damaging our economy.

The hon. Gentleman will have seen my hon. Friend the Member for West Bromwich, East (Mr. Watson) and his comrades shaking their heads when he asked whether they agreed that there was significant loss, which was damaging our economy.

Is not the bottom line that they do not agree, and do not accept that there is a problem?

Is not the bottom line that they do not agree, and do not accept that there is a problem?

Will my hon. Friend give way on that point?

Will my hon. Friend give way on that point?

I will give way for 10 seconds.

I will give way for 10 seconds.

This Bill is not about cutting people off from the internet. There is a very long process for that, which takes at least a year—probably more, in fact. People get letter after letter, then there are two appeals, the second of which is to a judicial tribunal. It is very...

This Bill is not about cutting people off from the internet. There is a very long process for that, which takes at least a year—probably more, in fact. People get letter after letter, then there are two appeals, the second of which is to a judicial tribunal. It is very...

The hon. Gentleman is very kind; I do not deserve such kindness, but he is a very old friend of mine, and I can only imagine that that is the explanation for it. In conclusion, let me just say to Stephen Carter, "Respec'"—Members will note that I did not pronounce...

The hon. Gentleman is very kind; I do not deserve such kindness, but he is a very old friend of mine, and I can only imagine that that is the explanation for it. In conclusion, let me just say to Stephen Carter, "Respec'"—Members will note that I did not pronounce...

On all counts, I am very grateful and stand roundly corrected. Let me just say in conclusion that this is a big and important Bill that addresses a massive part of our economy—it is a bigger part of our economy than of any other major economy in the world. Some...

On all counts, I am very grateful and stand roundly corrected. Let me just say in conclusion that this is a big and important Bill that addresses a massive part of our economy—it is a bigger part of our economy than of any other major economy in the world. Some...

If someone has a relationship with BT and does not pay their bill, what happens? What is the process, as a rule?

If someone has a relationship with BT and does not pay their bill, what happens? What is the process, as a rule?

But is it not the case that after a year, and lots of letters, people will get a first right of appeal to the Ofcom appeal body and then a second right of appeal to a first-tier tribunal, which is a judicial body? That is a court. Why do people...

But is it not the case that after a year, and lots of letters, people will get a first right of appeal to the Ofcom appeal body and then a second right of appeal to a first-tier tribunal, which is a judicial body? That is a court. Why do people...

I apologise for arguing with my hon. Friend the Member for West Bromwich, East (Mr. Watson) through my hon. Friend, but going back to his assertion about people not getting their day in court, I repeat that the second appeal is to a first-tier tribunal, which is a judicial body....

I apologise for arguing with my hon. Friend the Member for West Bromwich, East (Mr. Watson) through my hon. Friend, but going back to his assertion about people not getting their day in court, I repeat that the second appeal is to a first-tier tribunal, which is a judicial body....

I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Gentleman so early in his remarks, but we all know that the Government can get the Bill through only if the official Opposition support it wholeheartedly, especially in the House of Lords. Surely that is a bit like trying to have his cake...

I am sorry to interrupt the hon. Gentleman so early in his remarks, but we all know that the Government can get the Bill through only if the official Opposition support it wholeheartedly, especially in the House of Lords. Surely that is a bit like trying to have his cake...

I agree, but my point is that it is not an either/or choice. We need fundamental reform and a whole new system of licensing. We need to legislate for sharing, and in future we need to do things in a different way that allows people to reshape, reuse and remix...

I agree, but my point is that it is not an either/or choice. We need fundamental reform and a whole new system of licensing. We need to legislate for sharing, and in future we need to do things in a different way that allows people to reshape, reuse and remix...

Yes, and we need to share in the way that we legislate, but that does not mean that we abrogate the existing law as if copyright and ownership all of a sudden mean nothing in this country.

Yes, and we need to share in the way that we legislate, but that does not mean that we abrogate the existing law as if copyright and ownership all of a sudden mean nothing in this country.

Obviously, I do not claim to know what the technical measures are, but when I am told that they exist, I take it in good faith that they do exist, and unless my hon. Friend can prove to me that they do not exist—

Obviously, I do not claim to know what the technical measures are, but when I am told that they exist, I take it in good faith that they do exist, and unless my hon. Friend can prove to me that they do not exist—

My hon. Friend cannot prove that to me, however, as I am not going to give way to him again because I have not got the time.

My hon. Friend cannot prove that to me, however, as I am not going to give way to him again because I have not got the time.

Very briefly.

Very briefly.

I suspect that the hon. Gentleman may agree with me. Does he not think that the choice between creativity and internet freedom is a false one? The freedom to take other people's content is not real freedom.

I suspect that the hon. Gentleman may agree with me. Does he not think that the choice between creativity and internet freedom is a false one? The freedom to take other people's content is not real freedom.

No, it does not criminalise anybody; all it does is simply seek to enforce the existing law. We should, however, be very careful that the Bill does not have the unintended consequence of bringing about the end of public wi-fi. I was assured by the experts in the various Departments...

No, it does not criminalise anybody; all it does is simply seek to enforce the existing law. We should, however, be very careful that the Bill does not have the unintended consequence of bringing about the end of public wi-fi. I was assured by the experts in the various Departments...