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Twenty-five years ago, two trains collided just west of Paddington station, in what was one of worst rail accidents of recent times. Thirty-one people lost their lives and many more were injured. Will the Secretary of State join me in paying tribute to all those who were affected by the Paddington rail crash?

Asked by
Matt Rodda (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Topical questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
10 October 2024
Reference
754 c451
House
House of Commons

I commend my hon. Friend for his bravery in recently speaking out about his personal involvement in that tragic crash, and I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Kensington and Bayswater (Joe Powell) and my officials for attending the commemoration last weekend. I join my hon. Friend the Member for Reading Central (Matt Rodda) in paying tribute to the families of the victims and to all those heroes who responded on the day.

Answered by
Louise Haigh (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
10 October 2024
Reference
754 c451
House
House of Commons
Whether they have assessed the extent to which the prosecution of Network Rail for the Paddington crash was in the public interest.
Asked by
Lord Bradshaw (Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c214
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. The crash happened when Railtrack was in charge of the network, but the network is now governed by Network Rail, so totally different people were prosecuted. The operator that failed to train its driver was fined, and I have no quarrel with that, but since the accident Network Rail—or should I say the taxpayer?—has spent £500 million on installing a train protection and warning system to prevent such an accident from happening again. I want to press the Minister on whether there was any guilty mind on the part of the people who were prosecuted, because it seems that the mens rea in this case was absent.
Asked by
Lord Bradshaw (Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c215
House
House of Lords
My Lords, my noble and learned friend appears to suggest that the design of the layout outside Paddington was wrong. As my noble friend Lord Snape said, that was done by British Rail and approved by the Health and Safety Executive. Is not the situation a bit odd, given that after British Rail designed it and it came into operation, it was taken over by Railtrack, after which Network Rail took over responsibility when Railtrack failed? It is a long way from Network Rail accepting all the obligations and liabilities from Railtrack to the company being prosecuted for something that was done two predecessors ago.
Asked by
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c216
House
House of Lords
My Lords, who determined the public interest in this case? Was it the Health and Safety Executive, which brought the prosecution, or the CPS? Were the law officers consulted and, if so, did they give their opinion on what was in the general public interest, having regard to the history of corporate failings to which the noble Lord referred?
Asked by
Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c215
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I do not absolutely know. It is possible that, if the Bill had been passed in its present form, there could have been a prosecution for corporate manslaughter. It would have depended on determining tests that were not necessary for this prosecution; namely, whether there was a gross breach of duty and a senior management failing. But it is possible that that offence would have been made out.
Answered by
Lord Goldsmith (Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c216
House
House of Lords
My Lords, as I understood it, the noble Lord actually referred to the failings of the driver, not to corporate failings. The decision was taken by the Crown Prosecution Service, which prosecuted the case. The service consulted the law officers and me. As I have made clear to the House, I agreed with its view.
Answered by
Lord Goldsmith (Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c215
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I repeat: the company accepted its responsibility for the liabilities that had been passed to it. It is not so much the design outside Paddington as the fact that the signal was for some reason obscured and not visible. No one really knows why the driver drove through that red light. There had been eight incidents in which attention had been drawn to drivers passing that signal at red. It ought to have been looked at and a new solution found, as it subsequently was when a system was put in place under which, if a driver passed that signal at red, the brakes would automatically come on. Had that system been in place then, this would never have happened.
Answered by
Lord Goldsmith (Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c216
House
House of Lords
My Lords, given that the layout at Paddington was devised by British Rail prior to privatisation, that it was approved at the time by the Health and Safety Executive, that it was installed by Railtrack or its contractors and that the prime cause of the accident was, as the noble Lord, Lord Bradshaw, implied, the tragic failure on the part of a driver to stop at a red light, how is the public interest best served by prosecuting Network Rail, which was in no way involved, and in effect fining the taxpayer?
Asked by
Lord Snape (Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c215
House
House of Lords
My Lords, in the opinion of the noble and learned Lord the Attorney-General, what difference would it have made to the prosecution if the proposed offence of corporate manslaughter had been available?
Asked by
Lord Kingsland (Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c216
House
House of Lords
My Lords, it was clearly in the public interest to prosecute. The independent inquiry by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Cullen, described there having been, "““a serious and persistent failure””," to deal with the recognised problem of signals passed at danger in the Paddington area. Thirty-one people were killed in the crash. The Crown Prosecution Service applied the Code for Crown Prosecutors and held that it was in the public interest to prosecute. I entirely agree with it.
Answered by
Lord Goldsmith (Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c214
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the defendant pleaded guilty to the offence. That seems to me to be quite significant. As the noble Lord will know, the responsibilities of the former body were passed to the new body. I see no difficulty with this at all.
Answered by
Lord Goldsmith (Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c215
House
House of Lords
My Lords, so far as the cause of this terrible event was concerned, it emerged that in the Paddington area there had been no fewer than eight occasions when that signal had been passed at danger. Those responsible for the infrastructure ought to have held signal-siting committees to determine what to do about that so as to avoid what ultimately came about, which was that a driver missed that red signal with terrible consequences, as we know. The issue of fining public bodies arises from time to time. Where a serious crime is committed, even by a public body, it is right to mark that and bring some degree of accountability. It is also right to impose a penalty to deter not just that body but others from committing similar offences in the future.
Answered by
Lord Goldsmith (Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
20 June 2007
Reference
693 c215
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, which of the contractors responsible for rail safety in the (a) Paddington and (b) Hatfield rail crashes operated quality management systems.

Asked by
Mark Field (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
1 April 2003
Reference
105605; 402 c613W
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, if he will place in the Library a copy of the official note of his meeting on 12th September 2001 with the Paddington Survivors' Group; what matters were discussed at the meeting; and if he will make a statement. - Ref to...

Asked by
Andrew Turner (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
5 July 2002
Reference
60541; 388 c611W;388 c613W
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions, if he will place in the Library a copy of the note of his meeting with the Paddington Survivors Group on 12th September 2001.

Asked by
Baroness May of Maidenhead (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
5 July 2002
Reference
59820; 388 c611W;388 c613W
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, when the next progress report on the Ladbroke Grove Rail Inquiry Part I will be published; and if he will make a statement.

Asked by
Lord Foster of Bath (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
2 July 2002
Reference
66307; 388 c207W
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions, what (a) contracts and (b) technical support contracts were (i) awarded and (ii) used by the Health and Safety Executive as part of their investigation into the Ladbroke Grove rail crash in October 1999; and if he...

Asked by
Tom Brake (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
24 June 2002
Reference
387 c662W;387 c660W; 58649
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, Local Government and the Regions, if he will make a statement on the meeting between his Department and the Paddington Survivors' group on 12th September 2001; and if he will place copies of the minutes in the Library. - Including fact that...

Asked by
Lord Foster of Bath (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
17 June 2002
Reference
59879; 387 c68W
House
House of Commons