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As always, it is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for Nottingham East (Chris Leslie). I seem to recall that I was in the Chamber some months ago when his Bill was introduced by way of the ten-minute rule process, and as a consequence of that, we are...

Member
David Nuttall (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1237-8
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman has cited that evidence in the past, but the evidence from 2000 predates the work that I have described. It was because of that point that the QAA engaged with the subject. It has made explicit in its publications what the Oxford and Cambridge MAs are, and...

Member
Lord Willetts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1245-6
House
House of Commons

I am very interested in the hon. Gentleman's personal history, but he will be aware that time is pressing and that the sitting finishes at 2.30. It would be useful to hear from the Minister and others on the specific issue of the integrity of the master's degree. I would...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1238
House
House of Commons

I hear what the hon. Gentleman says. I will address that point in detail shortly. I just wanted to make the point that I am in no way biased about the merits or otherwise of someone having an MA from Oxford, Cambridge or Dublin after their name just because I...

Member
David Nuttall (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1238-41
House
House of Commons

I beg to move, That the Bill be now read a Second time. This Bill would resolve a straightforward question—should some universities have the right to award a free master's degree, while at every other university hundreds of thousands of students have to work hard to earn theirs? It is...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1236-7
House
House of Commons

That is the role of the QAA. I will be frank with the hon. Gentleman. This is where I have to reveal myself to the House as a Conservative. [Hon. Members: ““Hear, hear.””] I welcome the support from my hon. Friends. If Oxford and Cambridge came to us today and...

Member
Lord Willetts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1246-7
House
House of Commons

The Minister is very generous in giving way. The whole point of a quality assurance agency is to have some level of quality assurance across the university network. He would not allow universities to confer any old title—perhaps PhD or MP—on a smaller or unworthy qualification. There must be some...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1246
House
House of Commons

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Will you confirm that, under the rules of the House, if the Minister is still speaking at 2.30 pm, the Bill will fall and will not complete its Second Reading? If he wants to explore the issues in more detail in Committee,...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1247
House
House of Commons

Thank you very much, Mr Deputy Speaker, for making clear what we all understand on both sides of the House. I have accepted many interventions from the hon. Member for Nottingham East, and perhaps if I had not done so I might have been able to get even further in...

Member
Lord Willetts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1247
House
House of Commons

I am sorry to interrupt the Minister at the beginning of his speech. Is there a particular reason why use of the title master of arts is needed to confer those rights? Surely, he must admit that the university could confer the rights without the confusing mark of master of...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1244
House
House of Commons

I congratulate the hon. Member for Nottingham East (Chris Leslie) on driving the House to focus on an interesting curiosity in our higher education system. I declare a kind of interest as one of the people who did indeed shell out—eventually—to buy my MA, in order to vote in the...

Member
Lord Willetts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1243
House
House of Commons

I am honoured to have my first run out at the Dispatch Box in my new role as shadow Minister for competitiveness and enterprise on the seventh anniversary of my maiden speech in the House, which I delivered from the other side of the Chamber. I have to say that...

Member
Iain Wright (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1241-3
House
House of Commons

It is certainly essential that qualifications awarded by higher education institutions meet national academic standards to ensure that the world-class reputation of our United Kingdom higher education institutions is maintained. I will listen closely to the rest of the debate, but, on balance, I am probably minded to follow my...

Member
David Nuttall (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1241
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the Minister for giving way; he has been extremely generous. On the evidence point, in 2000, the Quality Assurance Agency for Higher Education undertook an opinion poll survey of recruiters. It reported that 62% of employers thought that MA Oxon. or MA Cantab. was a genuine,...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1245
House
House of Commons

Perhaps this is the moment to engage that point. The hon. Gentleman has to offer evidence that the arrangements are causing widespread confusion. We have seen no such evidence. All the material that is available on the websites of the universities of Oxford and Cambridge makes it absolutely clear that...

Member
Lord Willetts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1245
House
House of Commons

It might have been well recognised by the closed circle within Oxford and Cambridge themselves, but the rest of the world does not recognise that, so surely the Minister would have to acknowledge that clinging to the pretence of the title Master of Arts degree is a complete and utter...

Member
Chris Leslie (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1245
House
House of Commons

I will turn later in my remarks to the challenge, which the hon. Gentleman has raised again, of whether the arrangement is confusing, but, historically, the way in which membership of the convocation has been conferred is through the MA. Obviously, it provides those rights to vote that I mentioned....

Member
Lord Willetts (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1244
House
House of Commons

Second reading. Debate adjourned. To be resumed on 20 January 2012.

Lead member
Chris Leslie
Answering member
Lord Willetts
Department
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Type
Debates on bills
Date
21 October 2011
Reference
533 c1236-47
House
House of Commons

SI 2011/1038. With an explanatory memorandum from the Department for Education. Coming into force 31 July 2011.

Department
Department for Education
Type
Statutory instruments
Date
7 April 2011
Reference
SI 2011/1038
House
House of Commons; House of Lords

To ask the Minister of State, Department for Business, Innovation and Skills what steps he is taking to ensure that students resident in England applying to study at Trinity College, Dublin are correctly advised by Student Finance England on financial support which is available to them.

Asked by
Michael Fallon (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
26 October 2009
Reference
498 c131-2W;498 c129-30W; 295249
House
House of Commons