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I am afraid that I will not be so charitable towards the statement, but that is perhaps because, as a former soldier, I know too well the effects that delay and such investigations have on the morale of soldiers, their families and units—especially those in the front line. The Solicitor-General...

Member
Ben Wallace (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c734
House
House of Commons

It is important that whenever we look at a case involving our soldiers engaged in active service areas, such as Iraq, we take into account the precise circumstances in which they are operating. When making a decision, we need to take into account the threat that soldiers may feel under...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c734
House
House of Commons

In my hon. and learned Friend’s statement he said that there were ““inconsistencies”” in the accounts provided by the soldiers. Does he recognise that there are always inconsistencies in statements given by witnesses? If there are no inconsistencies, the witnesses are deemed to have colluded before giving their evidence. It...

Member
Brian Jenkins (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c735
House
House of Commons

There was, regrettably, an allegation of improper behaviour. The independent Iraqi civilian who made some allegations put forward a version of events that did not include the shooting of Sergeant Roberts, but did suggest that the behaviour of the troopers involved had not been appropriate. That was discovered at a...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c735
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the Solicitor-General for his meticulous care in warning us of the statement that he has made today, and for its tone and content. He is right to say that our soldiers are not, and should never be, immune from prosecution. They are subject to the rule...

Member
Lord Arbuthnot of Edrom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c734
House
House of Commons

The presence or otherwise of the protective jacket is a matter for the Ministry of Defence and others, and it did not have any substantial bearing on the legal decisions. In terms of the lawyers’ examination of the evidence, the issue was whether the soldiers had acted appropriately and whether...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c733
House
House of Commons

As a former soldier, I share in the tributes paid to our servicemen and women who represent our country abroad. They do a difficult job. I also share the thoughts for the families who face pressures when servicemen or women are abroad. I draw the attention of the Solicitor-General to...

Member
Tobias Ellwood (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c735-6
House
House of Commons

It is important that families are given as much information as is reasonable as early as possible and that the information is accurate, which means that there must be some degree of investigation of it. We have already heard from my hon. Friend the Member for Tamworth (Mr. Jenkins) that...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c736
House
House of Commons

I had the privilege of visiting Iraq in June 2003 as part of the armed forces parliamentary scheme. During our time there, I spent nearly 24 hours with the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment. I ate with the soldiers, talked to them and went on patrol with them in a Challenger...

Member
Richard Younger-Ross (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c736
House
House of Commons

Let me begin by echoing the Solicitor-General’s expressions of sympathy for the family of Sergeant Roberts, and indeed for that of Mr. Zaher, in this tragic series of events. I thank the Solicitor-General for early sight of his statement—all the more because the first indication I had that the statement...

Member
Dominic Grieve (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c728-30
House
House of Commons

I share the expressions of sympathy to Mrs. Roberts and the other members of Sergeant Roberts’ family. I welcome the fact that the Solicitor-General said that investigations into incidents such as this will be conducted much more speedily in the future, and I am sure that we are all glad...

Member
Dan Rogerson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c733
House
House of Commons

As the Solicitor-General will know, Mrs. Roberts is a constituent of mine. All our thoughts go out to her and her family at what has obviously been an incredibly distressing time. I welcome the Solicitor-General’s statement, particularly his saying that there will be no prosecution of the soldiers involved. As...

Member
Philip Davies (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c732-3
House
House of Commons

Of course, every death of a member of British service personnel is felt profoundly in the military family. All our thoughts are with Mrs. Roberts during these very difficult circumstances. She has been very concerned about the question of the protective equipment that her husband might have worn, and I...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c733
House
House of Commons

The whole House will join the Solicitor-General and the hon. Member for Beaconsfield (Mr. Grieve) in expressing sympathy to Sergeant Steven Roberts’ wife, Mrs. Samantha Roberts, his mother and the rest of the family, and, indeed, to the family of Mr. Zaher. As we all know, it has taken the...

Member
Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c731-2
House
House of Commons

I join the hon. Gentleman in paying tribute to our armed forces. We ask a lot of them in very difficult circumstances, particularly in Iraq; throughout their period there, they have done Britain proud. As I have said, there are very few cases where an investigation has been necessary because...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c732
House
House of Commons

: The Ministry of Defence always has to be risk-aware and, where it can, provide the appropriate equipment, but there is no such thing as a risk-free environment, and certainly not in Iraq; our soldiers and other service persons run risks when they are on active service. My earlier comment...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c736
House
House of Commons

My Lords, the noble and learned Lord gave extremely good answers to many of my questions, but he did not say how many servicemen were being investigated.

Member
Earl Attlee (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
681 c274
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the noble Earl is quite right; I apologise for that. The statistics are these. More than 80,000 members of the British Armed Forces have served in Iraq. There have been 184 investigations since the start of operations in Iraq—that covers all types of incidents—100 of those relate to incidents where British forces...

Member
Lord Goldsmith (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
681 c274
House
House of Lords

I thank the hon. Gentleman for the way in which he has responded, and particularly for his comments about the ““thorough, illuminating and helpful”” CPS report and his comment that the Attorney-General had acted properly throughout. He has indeed. I agree with the hon. Gentleman that this was a tragic...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c730-1
House
House of Commons

It is the case that there is insufficient evidence and therefore there is no case to answer. I am afraid that lawyers tend to use legal terminology, and the public have a right to know that the conclusion is that there is not a case to be answered in the...

Member
Mike O'Brien (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 April 2006
Reference
445 c735
House
House of Commons