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Transport (Wales) Bill

I beg to move, That the clause be read a Second time. With this provision, we seek to ensure that cross-border issues are dealt with definitely and effectively. We have argued the point several times throughout the Bill’s progress in relation to a number of issues. Although some aspects have been suitably discussed and assurances given—I am certain that the Under-Secretary of State for Wales believes that his Government can protect the interest of English border travellers—we still have no definite proof that the Bill will work as the Government anticipate. We are trusting them on the Bill. The responsibility to ensure that it works for the benefit of the people of Wales, and not just according to Rhodri Morgan’s unreasonable agenda, is firmly in the hands of the Government, although I have considerable reservations. On the BBC’s morning programme, ““Dragon’s Eye””, Rhodri Morgan gave his opinion of the Welsh Development Agency argument, saying:"““Mr. Hain can express personal views, but in the end who has the responsibility? Who has the responsibility in Wales? It’s us, it’s the Assembly.””" Can we really trust Mr. Morgan to deal with cross-border issues reasonably and to listen to the views of the Secretaries of State for Transport and for Wales? Even if the Minister assures us that there will be collaboration and discussion, what real powers will the Government have to argue with Rhodri Morgan if he insists that the Assembly has total control over those transport issues in Wales? The splits between Westminster and Cardiff have never been more obvious or more serious not only for policy development, but for the best interests of the people of Wales. I agree with the Secretary of State that the WDA is a worldwide brand and that the advice to take a long hard look was both sensible and responsible. However, although he said that the WDA is the most successful economic development agency in the world Rhodri Morgan told ITV Wales:"““Yes, but it’s not a matter for him. This is a devolved matter.””" ITV Wales asked:"““It doesn’t bother you that the Cabinet Minister representing Wales is unhappy with your reform?””" Rhodri Morgan replied:"““Well, if it’s a devolved matter it’s a devolved matter, I don’t know how often I have to repeat this. If it’s a devolved matter it’s a devolved matter, it’s not a matter for the Secretary of State for Wales. I can say that 64 times, 64,000 times, 64 million times, I don’t mind. The answer will always be the same.””" I find that attitude extraordinary.