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Charities Bill [HL]

My Lords, they should both be very relieved not to be lawyers. However, they have got their heads around the ineffable complexities of this legislation in a remarkable way. Without that commitment, I am sure, we would not have got to where we have in the manner in which we have. I, too, give my personal thanks to the Bill team and the Charity Commission team. Both have been at all times open, helpful and ready to discuss and surmount many of the problems that we have faced along the way. My greatest gratitude to them. I also mention, en passant, NCVO, which has put a lot of work into this Bill; the Law Society; and one must not forget, although one might, the Association of Charitable Trusts, which has been dogged, if ever that word had meaning; and particularly Judith Hill at the Charity Law Association, who has been the generalissimo of its terrific efforts. I thank the Minister again for what he said and all Members of the House for making this a model consideration of a difficult measure.