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Commons Bill [HL]

My Lords, I have a great deal of sympathy with what the noble Lord, Lord Livsey, says in relation to his Amendment No. 29, which I think we are debating at the moment. I have sympathies simply because, as he rightly points out, the Countryside Council for Wales as an owner of common rights sits untidily in the upland farms of which the noble Lord and I have some knowledge and experience. I cannot speak about Natural England, because I know nothing about it. However, if the Countryside Council for Wales, a statutory advisory body advising the Welsh Assembly Government, suddenly becomes an owner of common rights, how will that fit in with the countryside council roles or indeed the role of Natural England? Are there any guidelines that my noble friend might like to give to the Countryside Council of Wales in the operation of its new obligations?