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Commons Bill [HL]

My Lords, we have had the debate on the earlier amendment so I shall not go through it. I have reservations about the wording of the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Livsey. I have reservations about the idea of a single umbrella body for the whole of England. Regional bodies would perhaps be more appropriate because of the sheer cost of getting everybody together. While I support what the noble Lord is trying to do in theory, and while an umbrella body for Wales might well be relevant, I am not so sure about such a body for the whole of England. One would again have to look at costs. Who would pay for it? How would people get there? What administration would be involved? I shall leave the noble Lord, Lord Livsey, to answer the question of the noble Lord, Lord Renton. As it is laid out, the amendment is a little too prescriptive. While I would prefer it to be more general, in the way I described when we were debating the previous amendment, I understand where the noble Lord, Lord Livsey, is coming from.