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Proceeding contribution from Lord Shutt of Greetland (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Lords on Thursday, 15 June 2006. It occurred during Debate on Democracy: POWER Inquiry.


Democracy: POWER Inquiry

Well, my Lords, we beg to differ. But that is how I experienced it as a local councillor. I went to a public meeting that was called to start up Sure Start and we were told, ““It’s nothing to do with you; you’re local councillors, so keep out.”” I use that as an instance of something that is extremely local and should have stayed local, rather than becoming part of the quango society. In a related independent report—to which my noble friend Lord Smith of Clifton referred—Whose Town is it Anyway? The State of Local Democracy in Two Northern Towns, reference is made to Burnley and Harrogate. The most amazing fact about those towns is that their councils are responsible for only 5 per cent of local public expenditure, yet those are the doors that the citizens of those towns knock at when looking for help and assistance. That may well be worth a debate on its own, and perhaps we should look at it later. When will centralisation stop? The Power report mentions enhanced powers for raising money. I have sat here year after year and heard the Government’s announcement each autumn, which is given at the same time as council-tax-fixing announcements in multitudes of local authorities throughout the country. Recommendation 12 is:"““A responsive electoral system should be introduced for elections to the House of Commons, House of Lords and local councils in England and Wales””." Credit has already been given to the Government for what has happened with elections to the European Parliament, the elections in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and Northern Ireland local elections. It is worth saying—because the noble Lord, Lord Trimble, interjected in the speech of my noble friend Lord Goodhart to suggest that PR in Northern Ireland was not all that it might be cracked up to be—that no system is absolutely perfect. However, were the noble Lord, Lord Trimble, to seek election to Stormont, in most constituencies he and his party would have a chance of election, which they certainly did not have in the first-past-the-post election that rejected him from the other place. Some people think that proportional representation would be good for Liberal Democrats. It might be, but, like everyone, we will have to learn how to contest PR elections. I am not certain that we as a party know that at the present time. But that is not the point; the reason for proportional representation is that it is right in itself. It gives value for the vote and it will assist women and ethnic minorities—indeed, all minorities, particularly those that find themselves in one-party states at the moment. My final point is on recommendation 20:"““State funding to support local activity by political parties and independent candidates””." That is the ““£3 tick-box”” suggestion, which should go hand in hand with capped donations. But it is really important to have funding at a local level. Nothing would be worse than bloated central political parties hand in hand with an even more bloated central Government. The Power report takes the lid off many mysteries to people concerned about politics, but there are still mysteries. It is important to open up the political process and make it transparent. I have had a rather inelegant phrase for some years: ““Politics is knackered””. My noble friend referred to the fact that in Burnley and Harrogate the total numbers of people involved in the political process were 89 and 118. Some may think that an exaggeration, but if 200 is the total tally of people really taking politics seriously in those substantial towns, that is a very limited number. All of us who are concerned about politics should be concerned about that. The proposals in the Power report can put politics on the mend. The amazing thing is that the proposals do not, in themselves, cost money.


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Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
683 c366-7 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Central government Democracy Finance Elections House of Lords House of Commons House of Lords composition Electoral systems Local government Powers Political parties Politics and government Public participation Proportional representation Voting behaviour Young people Reform Voting rights Power Commission
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