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Proceeding contribution from Lord Rooker (Labour) in the House of Lords on Tuesday, 7 November 2006. It occurred during Debates on delegated legislation on Rates (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2006.


Rates (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2006

My Lords, it is budget neutral for the property rates—I have made that clear. It is not designed to raise money. The water charges are a quite separate issue. I conclude because I shall convince some noble Lords but not others. I realise the force of the arguments of noble Lord, Lord Glentoran. He said that the order is not democratic and that it is unfair. He made a case, as a case can be made—it is a political judgment—but after four years of research, six years after the start of the process, and 32 weeks at least of various consultations, we have a difficulty. The noble Lord will say that if a Conservative government returns, they will do certain things. That is their choice; that is where the power lies. If the Assembly is in existence, it is wholly within its power to change the system if it so wishes. As I said to the noble Baroness, it will be in charge. However, we want to ameliorate the system where we can at the edges, so that there is perceived to be less unfairness in what is proposed. I have said that we want a fairer system. The noble Lord’s amendment proposes the setting of a valuation cap. I suppose that we may call it the prime ministerial figure. I did not use that phrase; I am only quoting what has been said in this House—I would not dream of making a comparison between the Prime Minister’s properties, although others have. In the spirit of not wanting my Prime Minister to be challenged in that way, we recognise that there is a seductive argument for setting a cap. In addition—I have said that pensioners near the margin will benefit, because we have raised the housing benefit limits—we would prepared to look even beyond that. Money—it is a modest amount—can be found to meet the pensioners’ situation. I am therefore prepared to recommend to my noble friends that we accept entirely the noble Lord’s amendment and attach it to the government Motion. Therefore, the Motion would contain not only my words—one normally says, ““Believe the Minister because it is in Hansard””. If we put the Motion as amended to the House, it will become part of the parliamentary process and that will be the Motion which the House passes. It calls quite specifically for a cap. It states that we have to work with the political parties in Northern Ireland and find more money for pensioners at the margin. On that basis, I commend my Motion, with the amendment of the noble Lord, Lord Glentoran, attached to it word for word, to the House.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
686 c744 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Disability Housing ICT Exemptions Pensioners Low incomes Northern Ireland Local government finance Public appointments Northern Ireland Assembly Older people Rates and rating Property Staff Social security benefits Reform Tax allowances Valuation Timetables Northern Ireland Valuation Tribunal
Legislation
Rates (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 2006
Link
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