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Health and Social Care Bill

I can only repeat what I have said. Perhaps I need to write to the noble Earl and explain the difference between commissioning, hospitals and patient services. That might help to clarify the matter. I see nods around the Committee, because noble Lords seem to understand my point; that is, that the aim of the fine is not to make the patients suffer but to encourage the hospital—or whichever part of the health service is being dealt with—to improve and for the commissioners to look at the best way to reinvest in services in that area. I cannot think of a better way of describing it, but I shall definitely write to the noble Earl.